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HGH Protocol options
Hey guys! Wrapping up my show in 7 weeks and want to do a good bulk for the next year afterwards.
cycle post show:
test
primo
EQ
NPP
I currently am getting my hands on 15 kits(120iu kits) and would like to grow as much as possible within 12 months using it.
here are some options I heard and I would like some advice.
taking 6iu ED pre workout
8IU ED pre workout
8iu EOD
6 or 8 iu broken up into 2 shots. In the morning and pre workout.
I hear 4iu is mostly for fat loss aid and minimal muscle gains, so 6-8iu is where I want to be. I just hear that megadosing in one shot is best for muscle gains instead of breaking it in 2 shots.
I will be taking HGH for 12 months, MINIMUM.
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HGH Protocol options
Originally Posted by
Micki420
Hey guys! Wrapping up my show in 7 weeks and want to do a good bulk for the next year afterwards.
cycle post show:
test
primo
EQ
NPP
I currently am getting my hands on 15 kits(120iu kits) and would like to grow as much as possible within 12 months using it.
here are some options I heard and I would like some advice.
taking 6iu ED pre workout
8IU ED pre workout
8iu EOD
6 or 8 iu broken up into 2 shots. In the morning and pre workout.
I hear 4iu is mostly for fat loss aid and minimal muscle gains, so 6-8iu is where I want to be. I just hear that megadosing in one shot is best for muscle gains instead of breaking it in 2 shots.
I will be taking HGH for 12 months, MINIMUM.
If you are considering GH/Slin-
HGH/INSULIN PROTOCOL:
6ius of gh - 3iu post workout, then 8-10 units quick acting(humalog)insulin, then post workout Shake. 3iu gh at bedtime.
For every 10kg/22lbs of body weight,1 iu of insulin shall be used.That practicaly means that this person has to use 10iu of insulin during the day.This can happen either in two equal divided doses (breakfast & after training),or in one (post work out preferably).For every 1 iu of insulin,10gr of carbohydrates are required for safe use.This equals with 100gr of carbs for the daily 10iu of insulin use.Those 100gr should be 50% from polysacharides (maltodextrine) and 50% from starchy sources of complex carbs (potato,rice,pasta).
Mind that the fast acting insulin is way more safe,since it acts in a few minutes,so the user can be ready and well prepared in case of any hypoglycemic effect.On the contrary,the long acting insulin could be tricky,in case hypoglycemia occurs durng driving a vehicle,or even during sleep,that could be lethal.
A post workout shake should consist of the folloing ingredients: 50gr maltodextrin with 50gr whey isolate-hydrolysate protein and 10gr glutamine,**10gr Bcaa's,5gr HMB,1gr CLA.1gr,5gr creatine monohydrate,1gr vitamin C and electrolytes.One medium banana will provide another 20gr of fructose,or an energy gel as an alternative choice.
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maxmuscle1
If you are considering GH/Slin-
HGH/INSULIN PROTOCOL:
6ius of gh - 3iu post workout, then 8-10 units quick acting(humalog)insulin, then post workout Shake. 3iu gh at bedtime.
For every 10kg/22lbs of body weight,1 iu of insulin shall be used.That practicaly means that this person has to use 10iu of insulin during the day.This can happen either in two equal divided doses (breakfast & after training),or in one (post work out preferably).For every 1 iu of insulin,10gr of carbohydrates are required for safe use.This equals with 100gr of carbs for the daily 10iu of insulin use.Those 100gr should be 50% from polysacharides (maltodextrine) and 50% from starchy sources of complex carbs (potato,rice,pasta).
Mind that the fast acting insulin is way more safe,since it acts in a few minutes,so the user can be ready and well prepared in case of any hypoglycemic effect.On the contrary,the long acting insulin could be tricky,in case hypoglycemia occurs durng driving a vehicle,or even during sleep,that could be lethal.
A post workout shake should consist of the folloing ingredients: 50gr maltodextrin with 50gr whey isolate-hydrolysate protein and 10gr glutamine,**10gr Bcaa's,5gr HMB,1gr CLA.1gr,5gr creatine monohydrate,1gr vitamin C and electrolytes.One medium banana will provide another 20gr of fructose,or an energy gel as an alternative choice.
** optional
Max
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Nice protocol Max
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Originally Posted by
maxmuscle1
If you are considering GH/Slin-
HGH/INSULIN PROTOCOL:
6ius of gh - 3iu post workout, then 8-10 units quick acting(humalog)insulin, then post workout Shake. 3iu gh at bedtime.
For every 10kg/22lbs of body weight,1 iu of insulin shall be used.That practicaly means that this person has to use 10iu of insulin during the day.This can happen either in two equal divided doses (breakfast & after training),or in one (post work out preferably).For every 1 iu of insulin,10gr of carbohydrates are required for safe use.This equals with 100gr of carbs for the daily 10iu of insulin use.Those 100gr should be 50% from polysacharides (maltodextrine) and 50% from starchy sources of complex carbs (potato,rice,pasta).
Mind that the fast acting insulin is way more safe,since it acts in a few minutes,so the user can be ready and well prepared in case of any hypoglycemic effect.On the contrary,the long acting insulin could be tricky,in case hypoglycemia occurs durng driving a vehicle,or even during sleep,that could be lethal.
A post workout shake should consist of the folloing ingredients: 50gr maltodextrin with 50gr whey isolate-hydrolysate protein and 10gr glutamine,**10gr Bcaa's,5gr HMB,1gr CLA.1gr,5gr creatine monohydrate,1gr vitamin C and electrolytes.One medium banana will provide another 20gr of fructose,or an energy gel as an alternative choice.
** optional
Max
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first off, I want to thank you Max, for always chiming in quality information for my posts and really
helping educate me in I’m moving forward in my bodybuilding lifestyle. You really do help more than you know and not just me.
i believe if I added slin I would prob consider 8iu hgh. Now, obviously, I can only listen to experience and what others recommend to me until I try it. I would PREFER to not touch slin just yet as it is the one thing I am most nervous about. But I will if I need to.
Do you think you can get away with 6iu without slin and not become insulin resistant? You also suggest twice a day pinning all post workout for hgh? None in the morning? Only post workout and before sleep?
does the same protocol follow it I decide to hit this at 8iu ED?
lastly, what about mega dosing? Those who do 10iu 3-4 times a week pre or post workout in one shot(maybe some break into 2)
Thank you Max!!!!
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Originally Posted by
Micki420
first off, I want to thank you Max, for always chiming in quality information for my posts and really
helping educate me in I’m moving forward in my bodybuilding lifestyle. You really do help more than you know and not just me.
i believe if I added slin I would prob consider 8iu hgh. Now, obviously, I can only listen to experience and what others recommend to me until I try it. I would PREFER to not touch slin just yet as it is the one thing I am most nervous about. But I will if I need to.
Do you think you can get away with 6iu without slin and not become insulin resistant? You also suggest twice a day pinning all post workout for hgh? None in the morning? Only post workout and before sleep?
does the same protocol follow it I decide to hit this at 8iu ED?
lastly, what about mega dosing? Those who do 10iu 3-4 times a week pre or post workout in one shot(maybe some break into 2)
Thank you Max!!!!
Of course, can use gh w/o slin. If u don’t, then you may want to do 1/2 in the AM and 1/2 before bedtime. A lot of people do use large IM injections a EOD, but I am not a fan, not because it doesn’t work because it does. I cannot tolerate the side effects, lol.
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As a SRC I'm very familiar with usage of insulin along with GH, for long run this is counterproductive, as it will sabotage even more the insulin sensitivity which is already damaged under GH usage, the remedy here should be the combination of IGF1 (even at a low-moderate dosage) along with GH
GH, IGF1 and should I combine them ?
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Originally Posted by
maxmuscle1
Of course, can use gh w/o slin. If u don’t, then you may want to do 1/2 in the AM and 1/2 before bedtime. A lot of people do use large IM injections a EOD, but I am not a fan, not because it doesn’t work because it does. I cannot tolerate the side effects, lol.
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Interesting, so if the sides are tolerable do u think doing 8-10iu EOD would be beneficial?
Also, 6-8 without slin you still suggest splitting up? Do u think it’ll still be the most efficient for muscle growth?
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Pharmaca
As a SRC I'm very familiar with usage of insulin along with GH, for long run this is counterproductive, as it will sabotage even more the insulin sensitivity which is already damaged under GH usage, the remedy here should be the combination of IGF1 (even at a low-moderate dosage) along with GH
GH, IGF1 and should I combine them ?
interesting info also. I know HGH converts to IGF1. So, are you recommending lowering the HGH dose(to stay away from insulin sensitivity) and adding in igf1 to make up for the less GH I’ll be pinning?
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Originally Posted by
Micki420
Interesting, so if the sides are tolerable do u think doing 8-10iu EOD would be beneficial?
Also, 6-8 without slin you still suggest splitting up? Do u think it’ll still be the most efficient for muscle growth?
The release of Igf1 from HGH is the main muscle maker. 2 doses daily are very efficient. I also believe that high IM shots can work great for hyperplasia. It’s really up to you because you know your body and schedule best. I think about my daily life and make my final decision based on that. %
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Originally Posted by
Micki420
interesting info also. I know HGH converts to IGF1. So, are you recommending lowering the HGH dose(to stay away from insulin sensitivity) and adding in igf1 to make up for the less GH I’ll be pinning?
Yes when combining GH and IGF1 you may lower the GH dosage and count on the synergistic effect between the GH and IGF1
I agree with maxmuscle1 and the preferred protocol with GH is dividing the GH to 2 daily dosages, and if possible use IM injection
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