Thread: First Run With Lantus

Today I bumped it up to 40iu before breakfast. It does seem to have a good effect on my appetite. I do feel fuller all day but I've had this feeling before from water retention due to the gh. I'll most likely switch my anabolics soon from test and deca to test, eq, and some tren. Nothing too crazy. Probably about 1200 test, 600 eq, and 300 tren. The gh I'll keep at 6iu. The lantus I'll work up to 60iu over the next 2 weeks and then hold it steady for about 3 weeks before removing it.

Originally Posted by Riggs

I've only used Humalog pens and 12iu pre and 12iu post workout was strong asf. I was always prepared for the worst and even at that I went hypo a couple of times and man what a bitch that was. 1st time I was in the kitchen and went to shaking & twitching like my ass was on fire, legs became wet noodles and I barely made it to the fridge in time to chug OJ. Scared the shit outta me and I'm very methodical my use and habits. It was definitely an eye opener in regard to the risks.

If you're seasoned, have done extensive research, do a heavy carb load with it, and are looking to break a plateau then slin can get ya there. However it's not like AAS. That shit can render you comatose. It is not a mutha fuqn game. I spent yrs preparing, had several close friends helping and monitoring me, and I still had a couple close calls.

It certainly has its place in BB'n but it's not for the average Source board member who runs AAS.

That shit makes me nervous. I've experienced some hypo on tren. And that sucked. Imagine it can be a lot worse with insulin.

Originally Posted by JBHulk58

That shit makes me nervous. I've experienced some hypo on tren. And that sucked. Imagine it can be a lot worse with insulin.

I felt like my legs were wet noodles as in I looked and felt like I was having a stroke. Took all I had, as in I thought I wasn't gonna make it, to get from the stove to the fridge and chug OJ. If I had lost my footing and fallen I do believe it could have been it for me.

My puppy love girlfriend from 9 - 16 yrs old is a Type 2 diabetic and I've seen her go hypo more times than I can count when she was younger and mostly when she was 12 & 13. Based on those experiences I was pretty bad.

You have to perfectly time the pre and post w/o pins as well as your carb intake.

It's not a fucking game. But once you've got it dialed in and have a routine as well as your sugar pills and what you'll need it's not such a stress. You can't make mistakes tho or you'll pay.

The Lantus sounds like a different ballgame entirely. I’m gonna start there, until the drama is gone from my daily life and I can have a proper schedule of meals


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Originally Posted by Riggs

My Humalog protocol of pre/post workout worth a heavy carb load pre/intra/post was recommended by three of my close friends. 2 are National competitors in line for a card and the other has had his card for 4yrs. All 3 are over 270lbs and have my respect in regards to building muscle mass.

There has to be a point that risk outweighs reward. Exactly where that point is depends on the type of slin you choose.

I'd have to test that as well because IME Humalog hits quick asf as in 20 or 30min and is still active for 3 or 4 hours. If that's the case then the doses are going to overlap which could put you at risk of going hypo.

Here's a good explanation of what I'm referring to...

Humalog is a faster acting insulin with a 15 minute onset, 30-90 minute peak, and 3-5 hour duration. Therefore you can pin more than once a day, 2 or 3 x ED is fine, but you need to be cautious of slin stacking.
“Stacking” is when you take an injection, then take another injection say 3-4 hours later, and even though you measured out x amount of units, it was really like x+3 units because there was some residual left from your last shot. What can happen is you misjudge your carb intake and you think you had adequate carbs, but you really fell short and can start getting hypo (dangerously low blood sugar).
I would recommend using Humalog or Nolvalog over Humulin R, its a faster onset, peak, and a shorter duration. You can know what to expect from it a little easier than Humulin R.

So for me I'm not willing to risk 6 x ED.

Risk/Reward

IMO/IME the benefits Coke from shuttling in an ass ton of nutrients within the peak window of the slin. Doses overlap or you you make a mistake in your calculations and you better have your emergency kit (sugar pills, candy bars or OJ) with you or it could be the end of the road for you.

I only dosed Humalog pre and post w/o. I dosed carbs heavy asf 15 min after slin and I went heavy asf on carbs at 15mg per 1 iu. My friends do 10mg per 1iu and they're g2g. After testing the waters I settled on 12-15mg per 1iu. I was getting 400+ grams of carbs between pre/intra/post training. 300 was @ the minimum. I've only run slin 4 x so I'm still very much in the learning process.

Fair enough and thanks, that’s why I posted the article, I didn’t know what questions to ask and I knew someone would fill in the blanks. So, the active life would def prevent 6 times a day. Yes insulin transports nutrients but if it’s still active in your system then the transport will happen


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Originally Posted by astevens2

Today I bumped it up to 40iu before breakfast. It does seem to have a good effect on my appetite. I do feel fuller all day but I've had this feeling before from water retention due to the gh. I'll most likely switch my anabolics soon from test and deca to test, eq, and some tren. Nothing too crazy. Probably about 1200 test, 600 eq, and 300 tren. The gh I'll keep at 6iu. The lantus I'll work up to 60iu over the next 2 weeks and then hold it steady for about 3 weeks before removing it.

Duuuude I blew up enormous on slin. The pumps were literally toooo fucking massive to explain and had to see em to believe it. I got enormous. However weight didn't jump like you'd think. I utilized slin nutrient shuttling attribute to my benefit and did so pre and post training with a massive carb load. There's no way to describe just how much my measurements and strength changed and how quickly.

Slin is an experience that is matched by nothing else. I also ran Tren/Sdrol pre w/o too and it was out of this World. Not human at all. The closest I can say to Hollywood's depiction of AAS or the transformation from Banner to Hulk.

Originally Posted by Caustic Charm

Fair enough and thanks, that’s why I posted the article, I didn’t know what questions to ask and I knew someone would fill in the blanks. So, the active life would def prevent 6 times a day. Yes insulin transports nutrients but if it’s still active in your system then the transport will happen


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Pretty much. However if your a bad ass and can properly time the right amount of carbs then 6 x ED is possible but IMO why risk it unless your a serious competitor yah know. The risk of "stacking" even with Humalog is serious.

Originally Posted by jsnm

I had a few runs with it,but by the time I added it in I was already on other insulin as well.
I was doing:
8 units novolin r when I woke up alongside gh.
10 units lantus am
6 units huma 10 mins prior to post wo
10 units lantus before bed

Was also on sustained release metformin as well,
500mg post first meal,500mg post last meal of day.

Along with my cycle I was packing on some good size after my cut. But the sides sucked and I eased off of it.
I started getting very lethargic and felt hypo one too many times. I wouldn’t run an slin anymore,just too many variables.

I'm looking forward to running it again. Slin, pulsing GH, and Sdrol is the about only way for me to put on significant size at this point of my journey. I can add 10 or 15lbs but 30 nahhh. Not anymore.

I'll never do anything other than Humalog and only pre & post training...period.