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      No one brewing with Miglyol 840?

      I am not seeing anyone brewing with Miglyol 840, when I did a search.
      Looking for experiences with this.
      So far I read it is somewhat thick at first, then once you add and heat mixture, then let cool, it is very thin.

      Looking to make Test E 300, and NPP 200.
      If anyone has made at those concentrations, what were your ratios?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Plate Smacker View Post
      I am not seeing anyone brewing with Miglyol 840, when I did a search.
      Looking for experiences with this.
      So far I read it is somewhat thick at first, then once you add and heat mixture, then let cool, it is very thin.

      Looking to make Test E 300, and NPP 200.
      If anyone has made at those concentrations, what were your ratios?
      Most tend to recommend MCT and a little EO. Are you one of the few who responds negatively to EO? Why the desire for MIG?

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      Is there an easy way to test allergy to MCT and EO... besides injecting gear.?
      Currently use Test E 300mg/ml with miglyol, bb,ba mixture..
      Not sure of ratios.
      No pip whatsoever at 1.25cc... glute.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Plate Smacker View Post
      Is there an easy way to test allergy to MCT and EO... besides injecting gear.?
      Currently use Test E 300mg/ml with miglyol, bb,ba mixture..
      Not sure of ratios.
      No pip whatsoever at 1.25cc... glute.
      I am not sure about testing beyond injecting a super small amount of EO. You should not have any issues with MCT unless you are allergic to coconuts. MCT is actually incredibly good for you for numerous reasons. It's a more expensive oil but well worth it in my opinion.

      As far as the EO, I would recommend trying a small (2 or 3iu's in a slin pin) injection. This would let you test the waters on a very small dose, equivalent to the amount in a CC or so of a mixed injection. If this doesn't cause you any issues, you should be good to go. EO sensitivty/allergy is actually very rare. I am not sure why EO has obtained the bad rap that it has honestly.

      Others may chime in who know more than me, PS. Let's see what they advise. You may want to reach out to Ski, he has incredible knowledge and may be able to help you with this.

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      I am researching MCT oil. I read "MCT is (also known as Miglyol 810/812)"
      What MCT oil, and EO would anyone recommend?
      I am going to get some and run a test on each... and if my ass cheek falls off... well..

      I may use only MCT 60/40 Caprylic (C8) and Capric (C10, Pharmaceutical Grade, no EO...

      Why no love for miglyol 840 though?
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      I've heard mixed reviews on Mig 840. Some swear it's the best carrier they have ever used and it's as thin as water but I've heard many say it gives them horrible PIP. One guy I know very well has never had an issue with anything, even EO or Guaiacol, but a half cc of MIG will have him limping for a week with a glute shot.

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      Genotec used mih 840

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      ARL new domestic line is made with Mig 840. He's definitely a lot thinner than MCT, if you're allergic to Mig you would be allergic to MCT as well as they are both me from triglycerides. MIG is thinner than MCT, and it also acts as a mild solvent so you were able to brew at a higher mg than you would use in any other carrier oil. I used to think I was allergic to EO for about 5 years until I started playing around myself. After doing a lot of research I realize that when a lot of people add EO or guiaiacol they keep their B B and B A ratios the same as they would when they weren't using it which doesn't make any sense because we all know BB is a solvent and so is EO and guiaiacol, so when it be smart to drop the BB when using either or? When using Mig 840 you actually don't need any BB to make test e at 300 mg. When I learned that people were keeping their BB and ba ratios the same I injected 1 cc of EO I'm a perfectly fine the next day. After using Mig 840 I would never use anything else. That's just my opinion.

      Also I would like to hear from the guy who says he's allergic to Mig 840 but not MCT. I know hundreds of people who have used MIG, and I've never heard of somebody being allergic to MCT or Miglyol..



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      Good info bigmills, didn't realize u wouldn't need BB with mig840. I knew it acted a solvent but didn't know it was enough to do away with the BB or BA. But yea, my buddy has ran gear as long as I've known him and a source on another board switched to Mig 840 and it damn near crippled him. But after reading your response, maybe it was due to poor brewing or had too much solvent and not the carrier itself.

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      Quote Originally Posted by 12stone View Post
      Good info bigmills, didn't realize u wouldn't need BB with mig840. I knew it acted a solvent but didn't know it was enough to do away with the BB or BA. But yea, my buddy has ran gear as long as I've known him and a source on another board switched to Mig 840 and it damn near crippled him. But after reading your response, maybe it was due to poor brewing or had too much solvent and not the carrier itself.
      Yeah brother you're right that acts as a mild solvent. You're right about that. That's why I said things like test e 250 mg up to 300 mg you can get away with no BB. However you're always going to need BA, as that is just in there to keep the oil sterile while in the bottle so no bacteria can form. Personally I would put a little BB around 5% if I ever planned on sending it to a friend, because you never know what kind of cold climate it could hit, and it could crash there's a small chance, but if it's for yourself there's no need for BB with test e up to 300 mg. Also that's crazy about your buddy I would really like to know some details about that just because like I said I thought I was allergic to EO for literally probably over 5 years until I heard about this guy who is making test acetate 150 mg and was using 50% EO 50% MCT, and was still using the basic ratio of 2% ba and 18% BB. I mean you would think that would be common sense to drop in the BB down at least half way when you considering how much of a solvent or what I would call a super solvent that EO is? After me and my buddy talked about that he told me bro you're not allergic to it so that night up in 1 cc of 100% EO and don't you know I was fine. So your buddy you said he has used MCT oil and he was not allergic to that? If you can brother send me a PM.

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