Mix Test E and Deca in 1 Vial

**Plate Smacker** · 05-19-2018, 02:04 PM

So I brewed some Test E and Deca in MCT oil @300mg/ml 1%BA and 5%BB. All same ratios. Same recipe just different compounds.
Already filtered and in their own vials.

Since they are the same ratios, shouldn't I be able to....
Let's say I want a 1:1 ratio.
I draw 5ml from the Test E in one syringe.
Then 5ml from Deca in another syringe.
I add to a new sterile sealed vial. (5ml of each).

Now if I vent the vial, and heat the vial,
and shake the vial, they should mix right?
It would be like I made a blend almost.

Reason being, let's say I am about to be away for 2 weeks, and having it all in one vial would be optimal.

My current method for getting two compounds in same syringe: I draw 2 compounds to same syringe by first: using a 24G needle, draw for example Deca 1ml, then leave a 1/4 inch of air at top of syringe (needle end), remove 24G needle, put on 25G needle, draw 1ml of Test E. I am pulling plunger back to 2.5ml mark, and let fill to 0.5 mark.
I then remove needle from vial.
I pin with the 25G still attached. I don't change needle out again.

Thoughts?
If it did work, it should be 150mg of Test E and 150mg Deca per 1ml

**Droid1988** · 05-19-2018, 02:19 PM

I don't know why it would be an issue. Especially with same BA/bb and oil it should mix well.

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**Plate Smacker** · 05-19-2018, 02:39 PM

I am thinking if I putting 1/2 inch of water in beaker, heat to 150-170F(boiling point of water is around 212F)..
Then place vented vial (vent needle straight up) for a couple minutes to reach temp. Then remove vent and shake vial for awhile....
Should mix....

When the Deca and Test E are in same syringe, there is some swirling and seperation can be seen. However, taking to a higher temp and mixed should work.

I am just concerned about actual accuracy of mixture when drawing from vial.

I will run a test on 1ml of each in same vial tomorrow.

**Droid1988** · 05-19-2018, 02:46 PM

Interested to see the results. In theory I would say it shouldn't be an issue.

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**Plate Smacker** · 05-19-2018, 04:04 PM

Deca 300 on left, Test E 300 on right..
Center is 1ml of each heated and mixed.
Seems to have worked. No seperation seen under bright light.
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**Plate Smacker** · 05-21-2018, 03:09 PM

Added 3ml more of each to vial.
Heated in olive oil bath(because I am not a fan of water baths). Heat was removed once reached 190F. Slowly began to cool throughout the process.
Let sit a couple minutes, swirl for a minute, sit for a couple minutes. Remove vent, shake vigorously for a minute, put vent back in, set back in bath. About 10 minutes.
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Did it work, is it accurate? I don't know and will never be able to tell. I don't see why it wouldn't have.

If it did work, it should be 150mg of Test E and 150mg Deca per 1ml

**bigpapapumpaf** · 05-21-2018, 03:34 PM

I think as long as they are brewed together you will be fine. Many, many years ago when I brewed myself, I mixed many compounds at once but they were brewed together, ie melting point brew. I have heard, not confirmed that if they are not brewed together, they will separate.
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**Vision** · 05-21-2018, 09:12 PM

Originally Posted by Plate Smacker

So I brewed some Test E and Deca in MCT oil @300mg/ml 1%BA and 5%BB. All same ratios. Same recipe just different compounds.
Already filtered and in their own vials.

Since they are the same ratios, shouldn't I be able to....
Let's say I want a 1:1 ratio.
I draw 5ml from the Test E in one syringe.
Then 5ml from Deca in another syringe.
I add to a new sterile sealed vial. (5ml of each).

Now if I vent the vial, and heat the vial,
and shake the vial, they should mix right?
It would be like I made a blend almost.

Reason being, let's say I am about to be away for 2 weeks, and having it all in one vial would be optimal.

My current method for getting two compounds in same syringe: I draw 2 compounds to same syringe by first: using a 24G needle, draw for example Deca 1ml, then leave a 1/4 inch of air at top of syringe (needle end), remove 24G needle, put on 25G needle, draw 1ml of Test E. I am pulling plunger back to 2.5ml mark, and let fill to 0.5 mark.
I then remove needle from vial.
I pin with the 25G still attached. I don't change needle out again.

Thoughts?
If it did work, it should be 150mg of Test E and 150mg Deca per 1ml

Hey my duder!

only issue you'll have is at the full volume of 10ml complete it wont be 300mg per ml of each compound.. at 1ml it will be 150 of each if both are brewed at 300..

now, you can mix them, but you have to reheat the compounds so the molecules are now attached rather than sharing the same mole/space having an imbalance with ratio/weight, each parenting hormone/molecule will now be be melted and attached to the delivery carrier vehicle (MCT and great choice BTW)..You can use an oven and vent the vials (250 for 15-20 mins), I suggest this over radiant heat, as radiant can reach excessive heat points directly in one area possibly damaging the hormone (unless you have a hot plate that circulates distributing the heat that is now transferred).. Use convection heat, this will heat the entire element around rather than direct, convection heat (traditional ovens are best for melting, and re-attaching) are the way to go here in your instance.. Deca stinks while brewing too huh, lol.. what an awful smell that stuff has..lol

**Plate Smacker** · 05-21-2018, 10:25 PM

Originally Posted by Vision

Hey my duder!

only issue you'll have is at the full volume of 10ml complete it wont be 300mg per ml of each compound.. at 1ml it will be 150 of each if both are brewed at 300..

now, you can mix them, but you have to reheat the compounds so the molecules are now attached rather than sharing the same mole/space having an imbalance with ratio/weight, each parenting hormone/molecule will now be be melted and attached to the delivery carrier vehicle (MCT and great choice BTW)..You can use an oven and vent the vials (250 for 15-20 mins), I suggest this over radiant heat, as radiant can reach excessive heat points directly in one area possibly damaging the hormone (unless you have a hot plate that circulates distributing the heat that is now transferred).. Use convection heat, this will heat the entire element around rather than direct, convection heat (traditional ovens are best for melting, and re-attaching) are the way to go here in your instance.. Deca stinks while brewing too huh, lol.. what an awful smell that stuff has..lol

I have a high tech Frigidaire gas oven that is supposed to do very even heating.
It has a couple of thermometers sticking out at various places and fans that alternate depending on the readings I think.
Some Matrix shit bro. Not sure of the model.

For Test E the highest temp I went to was 190F for a couple minutes, stirring, until all separation was gone.(the swirls)
I am reading some don't apply much heat. Some apply alot of heat. Seems mixed.
I read about people Cold Brewing Tren A, (adding oil, Tren A, BB, and BA into beaker, stirring, covering, and letting sit overnight) then adding just a little heat to stir some more, then filter.

Anyway, I will attempt the oven 250F for 15-20minutes. See what happens. For science.