Thread: Gonna Do First Brew. Could Use Some Input About Heating.

Originally Posted by Droid1988

I skipped the syringe filters altogether when I started brewing. Went straight for the bottle top filters and love it. As long as you know how to sanitize your vials, rubber stoppers and caps you’re golden.


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I'd bet you had the sack to start right off brewing at least 100ml at a time. Normally I don't hesitate to jump right in. But if I ruin a batch because I was negligent, I'd kick myself in the ass. I did look long and hard at the bottle top filters after seeing them on You Tube but had second thoughts as I'm starting off at a low volume. It's definitely the way to go for bigger batches, which I hope to work my way up to. If my first couple batches work out, I'll be pleased enough that I won't mind dealing with the syringe filters. But that won't last long. Patience is not my strong point and you need to be patient pushing through those little SOB's.

Originally Posted by Plate Smacker

Most recipes are regurgitated and far too high in BA and BB. More than 1% BA is not needed.
2% BA and 20% BB are typical lazy regurgitated recipe that get thrown around... because they work, and pretty much everything will hold at such high percentages.
However... far too high.
You will hear that Test E or Deca @300mg/ml does not need BB. Yeah, sure... but it will be thicker.
To thin out Test E and Deca, I found for me, 5% BB was optimal.
I use MCT oil in my brews, carrier is mostly user preference. There are benefits to each carrier.

Heat: research thermal degradation of the compound you are working with. Many lack the data, yet magically, people somehow know the exact temperature that kills the hormone... bro science.
There is no need to go anywhere near the melting point when brewing.
To be safe, go to as low a temperature that works.
Stirring is fine.... they have magnetic stirring hotplates that stir with alot of force... your not gonna damage the compounds you will be brewing by stirring.
I use a simple beaker and glass stir rod.

When mixing/stirring, in the beginning, you will actually see seperation of the compound and BB and carrier...
You will see actual swirls in the mixture... indicative that the mix is not fully into solution.
Once it is clear, and in full solution, you will be able to tell.

Everyone has their own temps they work with...

Many don't even know how to properly use a thermometer. Research "immersion thermometer" and effective stem coverage.
If there is not enough mixture in the beaker to effective cover the full amount of the thermometer being used, (let's say only 50ml) you will not have the correct temperature.
You will need to tilt the beaker to cover the correct amount of the thermometer stem with mixture.

This is not etched in stone. I am not a scientist or chemist....
I just make brews that work for me so far...
You can view some of my threads for ideas.
I have only brewed Test E, Deca, NPP, Tren Ace (used a higher BB than needed to thin it out, will try 10%BB next time).
All my brews can be pinned with 29G slin pin.
However fir long esters I use 25G and short esters that require frequent pinning, 27G.

I do not consider myself a "brew master".

There are some popular UGL'sin the past and a few today, that have used the same 2%BA and 20%BB for almost all their brews.
Test E 250 and Test E 300, using same percentages.
Probably because it saves time on math, will not crash in most climates, and keeps consistency in their brews, so basically just being lazy and safe.

I have some threads with study data on making liquid orals. To get recipes for orals, research "solubility" studies of the compound you are putting into "solution" or "suspension".

PS I have ADHD... and I love lamp...

Wonderful info for me, as I will start my own rookie session next week. I'm going to use Humco Flavor Blend for my orals, a 2 in 1 product. If anyone has some working experience with this, feel free to chime in

Originally Posted by Caustic Charm

Wonderful info for me, as I will start my own rookie session next week. I'm going to use Humco Flavor Blend for my orals, a 2 in 1 product. If anyone has some working experience with this, feel free to chime in

With the Humco product, its definitely a "shake well" and "keep refrigerated" situation. I don't mind, but many will I assume. It does indeed work. I have to heat the mixture for a while though because the suspension is so viscous to begin with,you won't get a good mixture without heating it. Just my early experience. I've mixed Letrozole, Proviron and Cialis. Cialis is a real bitch to mix up.

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Originally Posted by Gearhead

I'd bet you had the sack to start right off brewing at least 100ml at a time. Normally I don't hesitate to jump right in. But if I ruin a batch because I was negligent, I'd kick myself in the ass. I did look long and hard at the bottle top filters after seeing them on You Tube but had second thoughts as I'm starting off at a low volume. It's definitely the way to go for bigger batches, which I hope to work my way up to. If my first couple batches work out, I'll be pleased enough that I won't mind dealing with the syringe filters. But that won't last long. Patience is not my strong point and you need to be patient pushing through those little SOB's.