High Volume Filtering Options

[BOP_79R]

Looking to move into higher volume filtration 500ml+ per brew and trying to decide options. Right now syringe filter and a weigh setup has worked as you just set and walk away and 1-200ml isn't a problem that way.

Vacuum is obviously the way to go with Nylon, PVDF, or PTFE filters. Is it possible to filter before adding the BA and use a PES? I only ask because PES can go down to .1 and .05 and it most bacteria is good at .22 but you never know.

Vacuum is the obvious next step. The bottle top is the most common but those are $10-$15 each and the higher ML ones are limited, you can find 100ml-200ml in every type and pore size but for .22 I can only find the 1000ml in Nylon or PES. The 500ml comes in Nylon, PDVF, and PES. Which is why I asked about filter PES before BA approach.

The other option is a buchner filter and really why I made this thread. Anyone have experience with these? a membrane filter is $1.50-$2.00 for a high end one and with a glass buchner setup it can all be washed and thrown in the autoclave. There are also a lot more filter membrane options. The glass set up would be 40 or so dollars on the bay which is basically a vacuum port on an e-flask, special funnel, and clamp.

Why? Because more and more people want to use my gear instead because they know the quality of clean I go through. So it's going from personal batches and handing out a vial here and there, to making enough for the inner circle, and 500ml looks to be the min I want to mess with, cleaning all the equipment takes for-fuckin-ever.

[Caustic Charm]

Looking to move into higher volume filtration 500ml+ per brew and trying to decide options. Right now syringe filter and a weigh setup has worked as you just set and walk away and 1-200ml isn't a problem that way.

Vacuum is obviously the way to go with Nylon, PVDF, or PTFE filters. Is it possible to filter before adding the BA and use a PES? I only ask because PES can go down to .1 and .05 and it most bacteria is good at .22 but you never know.

Vacuum is the obvious next step. The bottle top is the most common but those are $10-$15 each and the higher ML ones are limited, you can find 100ml-200ml in every type and pore size but for .22 I can only find the 1000ml in Nylon or PES. The 500ml comes in Nylon, PDVF, and PES. Which is why I asked about filter PES before BA approach.

The other option is a buchner filter and really why I made this thread. Anyone have experience with these? a membrane filter is $1.50-$2.00 for a high end one and with a glass buchner setup it can all be washed and thrown in the autoclave. There are also a lot more filter membrane options. The glass set up would be 40 or so dollars on the bay which is basically a vacuum port on an e-flask, special funnel, and clamp.

Why? Because more and more people want to use my gear instead because they know the quality of clean I go through. So it's going from personal batches and handing out a vial here and there, to making enough for the inner circle, and 500ml looks to be the min I want to mess with, cleaning all the equipment takes for-fuckin-ever.

I’m using a vacuum pump and autofil system at 500 ml. Works fine.


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[BOP_79R]

I’m using a vacuum pump and autofil system at 500 ml. Works fine.


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What brand and filter type? Seems everyone has their favorite between something like Autofill, zapcaps, whatever. Also what carrier oil are you using, I use GSO but someone in the group mentioned MCT is a lot better. I'll need to do a test run to see how I like it, if not, I'll stick to GSO and they can fuck off cause I'm the one brewing LOL

[Caustic Charm]

What brand and filter type? Seems everyone has their favorite between something like Autofill, zapcaps, whatever. Also what carrier oil are you using, I use GSO but someone in the group mentioned MCT is a lot better. I'll need to do a test run to see how I like it, if not, I'll stick to GSO and they can fuck off cause I'm the one brewing LOL

Autofil 1152-RLS Polystyrene Sterile Filter Funnel, PES Membrane, 5ml Volume, .22mm Pore Size, 9mm Filter Diameter (Case of 12): Science Lab Filtering Funnels: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

I'm using MCT oil tonight for the first time. So far loving it.

[BOP_79R]

I'm using MCT oil tonight for the first time. So far loving it.

So you add the BA after you do all the filtering?

[Caustic Charm]

So you add the BA after you do all the filtering?

I only use 1% BA. 1 ml isn’t going to change much


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[BOP_79R]

You're aware that no filter manufacture approves PES filters for use with BA, right?

[THX]

Looking to move into higher volume filtration 500ml+ per brew and trying to decide options. Right now syringe filter and a weigh setup has worked as you just set and walk away and 1-200ml isn't a problem that way.

FastCap and Polycap are available for large volumes. Couple of liters at a time.
Polycap needs a peristaltic pump.
If you're gonna filter under 1L of each compound I'd just use bottle top filters.

Vacuum is obviously the way to go with Nylon, PVDF, or PTFE filters. Is it possible to filter before adding the BA and use a PES? I only ask because PES can go down to .1 and .05 and it most bacteria is good at .22 but you never know.

You don't need to use a .05 micron filter.
People used to filter gear through .45
Get PVDF filters.
Why would you contaminate your filtered oil/gear with something that's not filtered?

Vacuum is the obvious next step. The bottle top is the most common but those are $10-$15 each and the higher ML ones are limited, you can find 100ml-200ml in every type and pore size but for .22 I can only find the 1000ml in Nylon or PES. The 500ml comes in Nylon, PDVF, and PES. Which is why I asked about filter PES before BA approach.

Just use 2x 500ml filters.
Only use one filter once for each compound (you can use the same reciever/mediabottle though). It's not recommended to use the same filter to filter different batches/compounds. Air shouldn't go through the filter essentially.

The other option is a buchner filter and really why I made this thread. Anyone have experience with these? a membrane filter is $1.50-$2.00 for a high end one and with a glass buchner setup it can all be washed and thrown in the autoclave. There are also a lot more filter membrane options. The glass set up would be 40 or so dollars on the bay which is basically a vacuum port on an e-flask, special funnel, and clamp.

I'm gonna be a dick to you now but I'm sure you're not gonna brew couple of liters of gear of each compound for your own personal use. You're probably going to sell gear.
With the questions you're asking you should read more and start off with a more simple setup before you hurt yourself or even worse other people.


And again, you really shouldn't get the buchner filtering setup if you think it takes forever to clean your labgear. Cleaning and sterilizing that stuff is a pain in the ass. Don't look at the cheap price of the filter setup.
I'd rather pay extra to get pre-sterilized stuff.
Sterilizing things isn't as easy as you and most people think.

Stick to pre-sterilized filters and equipment.

[BOP_79R]

FastCap and Polycap are available for large volumes. Couple of liters at a time.
Polycap needs a peristaltic pump.
If you're gonna filter under 1L of each compound I'd just use bottle top filters.

can peristaltic be used to draw a vacuum or does it need to used traditionally and the oil goes through the tubing? I didn't think those things could draw much of a vacuum with an empty hose.

You don't need to use a .05 micron filter.
People used to filter gear through .45
Get PVDF filters.
Why would you contaminate your filtered oil/gear with something that's not filtered?

I'm confused, isn't the purpose of BA to prevent bacteria growth?

Just use 2x 500ml filters.
Only use one filter once for each compound (you can use the same reciever/mediabottle though). It's not recommended to use the same filter to filter different batches/compounds. Air shouldn't go through the filter essentially.

yea no plans to mix batches

I'm gonna be a dick to you now but I'm sure you're not gonna brew couple of liters of gear of each compound for your own personal use. You're probably going to sell gear.
With the questions you're asking you should read more and start off with a more simple setup before you hurt yourself or even worse other people.

Not so much a dick as lack of reading comprehension. Yes I'd be selling the gear, I'm not a charity case for a dozen buddies. if you have 9 people on trt who don't go to the doc any more because it's $140/10ml those people are taking 150-250mg with a 200mg/week average over 52 weeks that is almost 400ml right there add in everyones blasts/cycles it's easy to hit 1000ml for a year . So yes I'd rather brew 500ml+ of everything and be able to put the equipment in storage. It's much easier to have something in storage and make everyone responsible for storing their own vials than it is to set up a lab once a month.

And again, you really shouldn't get the buchner filtering setup if you think it takes forever to clean your labgear. Cleaning and sterilizing that stuff is a pain in the ass. Don't look at the cheap price of the filter setup.
I'd rather pay extra to get pre-sterilized stuff.
Sterilizing things isn't as easy as you and most people think.

Stick to pre-sterilized filters and equipment.

it takes forever to clean the equipment because it does. It would take the same time to clean media bottles, flasks, beakers, and vials if im brewing 100ml or 1000ml. A few stages of washing then sanitizing, and sterilizing, building the clean room all adds up if I do it 12 times a year vs 1 or 2. So it's not that I'm lazy, it's that I'm NOT lazy and I put a lot of effort in to the quality and safety of something I'm injecting into my body. It's easier and less risky to do a single brew of the compounds everyone wants then to keep equipment around and making multiple purchases, etc.

[itsBoogie]

What brand and filter type? Seems everyone has their favorite between something like Autofill, zapcaps, whatever. Also what carrier oil are you using, I use GSO but someone in the group mentioned MCT is a lot better. I'll need to do a test run to see how I like it, if not, I'll stick to GSO and they can fuck off cause I'm the one brewing LOL

I switched from GSO to MCT a while ago. My test 400 and my tren,npp,test p blend...both pen like water no pip or knots!

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