Thread: Better To Heat Before OR After Adding Carrier?

As a newb I am still relying on the recipes and procedures of other's I've come across. So some of these say to heat the raws right after adding the chems and then add the carrier. While others add the carrier right after the chems and then heat. So I'm interested in opinions with reasoning/facts behind them, if it even matters. For example, it seemed that when the brewer was using a heated magnetic stirrer, they tended to add the carrier before heating. On the other hand, it was more likely the opposite when the brewer was using a hot water bath. So any productive input would be appreciated and I'll be glad to give a rep up.

Also I am teetering on the idea of getting a heated magnetic stirrer. It may not be necessary as I have no plan to distribute. But it seems like a convenient piece of equipment to have. I look at it like this...you don't need a car to have a killer sound system. But it sure is nice to have. So again, would appreciate any input. Thanks peeps!

Originally Posted by Gearhead

As a newb I am still relying on the recipes and procedures of other's I've come across. So some of these say to heat the raws right after adding the chems and then add the carrier. While others add the carrier right after the chems and then heat. So I'm interested in opinions with reasoning/facts behind them, if it even matters. For example, it seemed that when the brewer was using a heated magnetic stirrer, they tended to add the carrier before heating. On the other hand, it was more likely the opposite when the brewer was using a hot water bath. So any productive input would be appreciated and I'll be glad to give a rep up.

Also I am teetering on the idea of getting a heated magnetic stirrer. It may not be necessary as I have no plan to distribute. But it seems like a convenient piece of equipment to have. I look at it like this...you don't need a car to have a killer sound system. But it sure is nice to have. So again, would appreciate any input. Thanks peeps!

I was planning on getting a hotplate with magnetic stirrer as well, then I realized I already have a portable electric grilling hot plate for doing breakfast tote stuff that goes up to 450° and has temp controls.

So i decided to try everything out with buying any kind if absolutely unnecessary equipment.

Cuz the less i spend on equipment the more i can spend on raws lol.

I might get it in the future. Depends in how it goes.

I've been told that if u don't brew a whole lot its not really necessary

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After going through the process it is far easier using a heated magnetic stirrer
After reading everywhere i used one of the guys processes on here which is

Put compound in a breaker and desired carrier oil

Heat and stir compound till it reaches 200F
It all should be disolved by then

Keep it at 200F for 30mins

Turn heat off and leave it stirring till reaches back just above room temp

Add BA and BB to what you percentages you want to run

Keep it stirring to it is all mixed together and looks uniform

Filter using a .22

Then put it in your vials

I use PPL link to the steroid calculator to work the mls and grams out

Found this works for me and dont get any pip

But only my 2 cents there allot of opinions on how to make it but have fun

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^ Generally the 200F for 20-30m is for Test E only due to carbolic acid used in manufacuting. Others you shouldn't need to keep hot that long as once it's suspended it should be gtg unless your recipe isn't up to par.

Anymore input on mixing the carrier before or after heating?

Originally Posted by trenbolognaa

^ Generally the 200F for 20-30m is for Test E only due to carbolic acid used in manufacuting. Others you shouldn't need to keep hot that long as once it's suspended it should be gtg unless your recipe isn't up to par.

Will high mg per ml recipes and/or blends possibly require higher temps and or longer stirring/mixing time?

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Originally Posted by Gearhead

Anymore input on mixing the carrier before or after heating?

Mix the compound with the carrier and heat
Let it cool then add the ba and bb to whatever ratios you choose

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Originally Posted by Oldskool

Will high mg per ml recipes and/or blends possibly require higher temps and or longer stirring/mixing time?

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As far as i have read higher dosages dont require longer times just make sure it all looks disolved
When you increase the dosage you just need more bb to make it stay together
Bb is the solvent
Hope that makes sense

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Do not heat it up too much though, specially if you've already mixed in the BA and BB.

Originally Posted by Oldskool

Will high mg per ml recipes and/or blends possibly require higher temps and or longer stirring/mixing time?

Not really, but you may need to increase BB % or use some EO/Guaiacol bcuz if it's really concentrated it'll be harder to keep suspended.
Same goes with base suspensions, they generally need EO/Guaiacol especially this time of year for cold states.