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    Thread: China's raw game. The Black Market, Scammers, Middlemen, and the garbage they sell.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Gainzbruh View Post
      So you want word of mouth assurance? Or do you like making excuses not to do what it takes?
      Just saying it’s pricey. If they were paying for shipping, then yea that’s fine


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      It’s always a gamble we play in this game... trial and error brother , unfortunately.

      Anyone you deal with is fake names and vpn protected emails ... you will never really know who you buying From. Hopefully you will come across someone honest and cares about you as a customer and that will be the end all be all for your search.
      Everything in life is a risk.

      Good things in life never come easy. Good luck on your search bro.



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      I spent countless days , even weeks going through every nook and cranny getting every bit of info and testing / proof of purity and overall good communication before I made my decision.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Caustic Charm View Post
      I bought my raws from China, and it was all good.
      99% get their raws from china, but you never know the quality of the product. The raws being "all good" is relative. You won't know the difference between 80% and 95% pure raws. The problem is that you don't know what the rest of the 20% is

      Not trying to be a dick to any of you guys. Just be careful, just look at one very known company/seller on this board that recently got some bad reviews.

      That's what I mean when I say "you never know".

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      here's a quote that is absolute truth and the nature of things. keep in mind 99% of all raws come from china.
      "The absolute reality is most claim to be manufacturers, but are really middlemen. That's the bottom line."

      I chose a trading company. they quite readily admit it. i'm sure you're right, so now the question is this: how does one find a reputable Chinese dealer because the concern is that the individual only represents themselves. i.e. is their concern for human life greater than their greed? how do we find the stable individual that actually gives a shit. what are the indicators?
      Not all Chinese are educated and can speak intelligently on the gear they are pushing.
      not all chinese know how to sell
      not all chinese are patient
      not all chinese criminals last, oh but the ones that do. anyone that means to make some real money will show a trend of sustained operation and will have made business friends.
      you'll see that in the way they communicate.
      not all Chinese will have the business resources to get the customer's product to them quickly without the need for product disguises.

      I'll perform a melt test with a melt point apparatus and post the results.
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      oh i'm not asking for assurance. i know that whatever decision i make will be based on my evaluation of the vendors. it's pretty impossible anyone would know most of these Chinese suppliers. I just wanted to talk about dealing directly with the Chinese. i'm new and i didn't think i was repping. figured it was just a topic of discussion within the lab section of this board. you know geek stuff.

      the Chinese vendor i dealt with didn't have a VPN on his stuff. checked it. i did notice a VPN on someone elses stuff. wasn't sure what to make of it, but perhaps a VPN should be a red flag.

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      Quote Originally Posted by DEFYTHEGODS View Post
      oh i'm not asking for assurance. i know that whatever decision i make will be based on my evaluation of the vendors. it's pretty impossible anyone would know most of these Chinese suppliers. I just wanted to talk about dealing directly with the Chinese. i'm new and i didn't think i was repping. figured it was just a topic of discussion within the lab section of this board. you know geek stuff.

      the Chinese vendor i dealt with didn't have a VPN on his stuff. checked it. i did notice a VPN on someone elses stuff. wasn't sure what to make of it, but perhaps a VPN should be a red flag.

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      Man I'd stick to the sponsors list here on our forum. The have all been verified by staff and that doesn't mean things are 100% all the time but it means you know what others experience is with the vendor

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      Idk it’s just such a shady biz we’re they can make a killing and then disappear and come back and we wouldn’t even know it.. I think ur on the right track all I do is read reviews on sponsors then I’m more confused in the past 6 months I’ve bought from 4 different sources and honestly have not been impressed at all so the search continues..

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      Quote Originally Posted by itsBoogie View Post
      Man I'd stick to the sponsors list here on our forum. The have all been verified by staff and that doesn't mean things are 100% all the time but it means you know what others experience is with the vendor

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      i really do like the ease of convenience these marketed companies have. it's so nice to be able to just shop.

      -finally found the like button...
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      Quote Originally Posted by DEFYTHEGODS View Post
      i really do like the ease of convenience these marketed companies have. it's so nice to be able to just shop.

      -finally found the like button...
      And they are all trusted reliable sources!

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