Thread: China's raw game. The Black Market, Scammers, Middlemen, and the garbage they sell.

Originally Posted by DEFYTHEGODS

Am i allowed to source here?

i don't want to, but i need advice and i want to talk about it, but i can talk about buying raws from china without going into details.

currently looking at a trading company with stocks on the SSE. (could be 100% fooled though. i really honestly don't know)

Doing my best to deal with a manufacturer, but they are damn near impossible to find. most entity vendors advertising are trading companies. at least i'm getting that much honesty out of them. this one i'm looking at appears to be a bid dog though. I made a little list for myself. not really much to go off, but i guess it's a start. can i get some help adding to it?

-professional. maybe even a little kurt

-educated

-claims to be a manufacturer (is one) -OR is a large trading company with stocks on the Shanghai Stock Exchange

-provides explanation of methods for checking for purity

-has a large list of anabolic products

-explains what the steroids are used for normally -is not pushy. -calls small orders "samples" 100g or less -has a minimum sample amount.

-long standing reputation

-prices are on par with market values

-main products are steroids and pharm/organic compounds

-has a physical address

-can provide bank transfer information. bank info matches who they claim to be

-can provide their business license

-Can provide a free sample of 10gs or monetary equivalent (in my current case my vendor will only give me a 2g sample)

Are they listed as a source on BOP?

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i'm not sure, do you have the link?

i wouldn't think so, but i could be wrong. they don't advertise at all, but i'll check.

this is not a UGL

Dude, no one on this forum is going to tell you that they are good to order from. We have these forums for a reason. There are plenty of verified suppliers on this board that deal in raws. Look at the reviews and make an educated guess from there. We can't tell you if some unknown supplier from China is going to be good or bad. Regardless if they are on the Shanghai Stock Exchange. All anyone can tell you is order with care. Plus it's disrespectful to our proven vendors on this board who pay for not only advertising, but also have plenty of proven blood work and HPLC tests on their products to talk about other suppliers who have none of these things on our forum.

Originally Posted by DEFYTHEGODS

oh i'm not asking for assurance. i know that whatever decision i make will be based on my evaluation of the vendors. it's pretty impossible anyone would know most of these Chinese suppliers. I just wanted to talk about dealing directly with the Chinese. i'm new and i didn't think i was repping. figured it was just a topic of discussion within the lab section of this board. you know geek stuff.

the Chinese vendor i dealt with didn't have a VPN on his stuff. checked it. i did notice a VPN on someone elses stuff. wasn't sure what to make of it, but perhaps a VPN should be a red flag.

anyone know how to use one of these? lol
HP 19 Series II Liquid Chromatograph | eBay

Practical High-Performance Liquid Chromatography 5, Veronika R. Meyer - Amazon.com

Running You Through HPLC: How Does it Work? - Bitesize Bio

Man I'd stick to the sponsors list here on our forum. The have all been verified by staff and that doesn't mean things are 100% all the time but it means you know what others experience is with the vendor

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Idk it’s just such a shady biz we’re they can make a killing and then disappear and come back and we wouldn’t even know it.. I think ur on the right track all I do is read reviews on sponsors then I’m more confused in the past 6 months I’ve bought from 4 different sources and honestly have not been impressed at all so the search continues..

Originally Posted by korsaire

we will only recommend sponsor from Bop you can go see in each section and make your own search and choice like the one i have done with my signature

It's still nearly impossible to know if they will send you good stuff or not. From what DEFYTHEGODS just mentioned, if all those things are on point then they should be legit, I'd probably trust them. Send me a PM of what company it is and I can ask around.

Originally Posted by THX

It's still nearly impossible to know if they will send you good stuff or not. From what DEFYTHEGODS just mentioned, if all those things are on point then they should be legit, I'd probably trust them. Send me a PM of what company it is and I can ask around.

I bought my raws from China, and it was all good.