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      Need help with filtration options

      I've made hundreds, maybe a 1000 vials homebrew over the last year, all of which I used nylon .22 syringe filters for, could get on average 70-150mls per filter before it completely jammed up, fuck its a painful process, hours i'd spend in the kitchen dripping in sweat pushing those things till my hands got fkn sore, just to make 100 vials. Anyway, I want to go to an easier and much faster method. So far from local ebay sellers without having to ship stuff internationally I can see the Stericups, Stericaps and Vacucaps. So can I please get some guidance of what to go with. I'm not brewing 1000's at a time, maybe 100 here and there every few months. I'll appreciate thorough answers, Material, rough setup costs, whats better short term, whats better long term, how many ml of substance i can filter before it needs a replacement, good options for pumps.

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      Shit if ur only doing say 100 just keep ur oil warm and use 10ml draw with no needle then but filter on and push it's easy
      the key is make sure ur oil is warm not cold it will save mad time.or go with a 60ml and a caulking gun.but way easy with just a 10ml

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      Quote Originally Posted by Posiden View Post
      Shit if ur only doing say 100 just keep ur oil warm and use 10ml draw with no needle then but filter on and push it's easy
      the key is make sure ur oil is warm not cold it will save mad time.or go with a 60ml and a caulking gun.but way easy with just a 10ml
      I've always done with warm oil, its always so hot when i do it, the ink from the syringe markings(20ml syringe) smudges off almost instantly, i try go as hot as i can without damaging the plastic syringes otherwise it just explodes and backfires in my face. test prop and tren ace, no worries, 200mg/ml or higher concentrations, test e, bold, deca etc, no chance a .22 is worth my time, even with a caulking gun.

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      Are you caping ur self or sealed vials.if caping ur self don't put a needle on the end of filter.inks coming off cuz of the ba.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Posiden View Post
      Are you caping ur self or sealed vials.if caping ur self don't put a needle on the end of filter.inks coming off cuz of the ba.
      Yeah bro I’m capping myself, and don’t do it with a needle on the end, I filter it all into a sterile beaker, then once I got my desired amount I transfer it into vials.


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      First thing I would say to anyone wanting to home brew is to take the time an expense to acquire a laminar flow cabinet/hood of some kind. Many things regarding these operations have work around but there is no substitute for the aseptic laminar flow when trying to make sterile projects. The money you save over buying premade gear+ the confidence of knowing exactly what you inject into your body make purchasing a hood well worth it.

      I have used most filter methods from syringe filters to my current capsule filters. All were a pain in tha ass/arse. I didn’t understand this until I started using Polycaps. I thought that bottle tops and my Büchner rig was pimp. Wrong!

      If you are making between 500ml and 5L, the Polycaps, although sort of expensive, are well woth the cost. If you are filtering even a liter, the time and hassle saved is substantial. (We filter at 50ml/minute). You of course would need to invest in a peristaltic pump. These pumps can also be used for metering dispensers for filling multiple vials.

      Even if you only brew say 250ml of five different products at a time, there is a way to maximize use of a single filter.

      So you have a Polycap AS36 and a pump and want to make 250ml/each sust, prop, Cyp, Deca and Tren. You brew and filter in this order using the same filter. Filtering in this order means very little pollution of one product with the previous product. And since the compounds are similar (except the Tren and Deca) it wouldn’t make a noticeable difference. (The gear is for personal use anyway, right?

      I lose about 30ml per filtering but much of that is in the tubing and because I’m not worried about a little loss so I don’t squeeze out the last drop.

      So I will filter the Test prop, then the Sust, then Cyp. Sust has prop so no worry there. Our Sust is 350 and has Cyp in it so no big deal if the Cyp has a few short (and one longer) ester in it. With batches in the 3L range the little bit of different product would not be perceivable.
      As for the Deca, again using 3L as a reference, a wee bit of Cyp (30ml in 3L) also won’t make any difference. Now when you filter the Tren, no big deal because you think you’ll notice any Deca in your Tren cycle? Probably would help anyway.
      I would never consider using this approach for things like Mast or Primo or any injectable versions of orals. Last thing I would want is a female taking the very expensive Primo contaminated with test, so think on this concept and make your own decisions.

      The best part is that you can store used filters for future use. Especially if you are using basic oil/BA/BB. We store them in sterile jars. When using a Mig or EO and the like, the filters get used and binned so as not to risk membrane breakdown.

      So you don’t have a peristaltic pump? You can modify a single media bottle cap to make your media bottles a vacuum filtering system. Instead of pumping through Polycaps with pressure, you can suck into media bottles via vacuum.

      If people are interested and not just piss taking, I will post sources for pumps, hoods and filters.
      Last edited by Enigma; 02-03-2019 at 05:59 PM.

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      Oh, I still use syringe filters to make bacterioststic water. I can push several liters through one very fast.

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      What peristaltic pump would you suggest for pumping 50ml/min?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Enigma View Post
      Enigma you are a god! I'd love to talk shop with you sometime. Thanks for the wisdom brother.

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