Last couple vials from same brew PIP

[Plate Smacker]

So brewed Test E as normal.
300mg/ml in MCT oil, 1%BA 7%BB
All filtered to same media bottle.
All transferred to sealed vials.
First vials virtually no pip. Small amount next day.
Now...
Last 2 vials of 5 remaining, have had more pip than normal.
Why would they have more PIP?

Anyone ever have this happen?
I never have.
Wasn't brewed too long ago.
Just weird.

I am coming off cruise, so maybe more injection volume. Started brand new vial with this blast. But I blasted with 1 of the vials before my cruise. No issue then or during cruise.

Cruise was 100mg E4D rotating glutes only.
Started blast wkth new vial with 1ml or 300mg Test E left glute, 1ml 300mg Deca right glute.
Test E side PIP and swelling. More than normal, lasted 3 days. 4th day rotated sides and location on glute. Test E side, same situation. My Deca is pure painless.
So yesterday, mixed in same syringe,0.5ml 150mg Test E and 0.5ml 150mg Deca and same with another syringe.
I was thinking maybe my ass needs a break.
Pinned quads. Quads have always been sensitive in the beginning. I mixed the Test E and Deca to make Test E volume half of what it was per injection site.
NOPE LOL!
8 hours later horrible PIP in quads, more than normal, and some swelling. No redness. Glad I didn't put all Test E in one quad. Took 600mg Ibuprofen and going to bed. Should be dissipated by morning.
This will give my ass an 8 day break.
So if I pin my glute again, and same issue, something is up.
No Test Flu yet.
Maybe I have just turned sissy bitch boy lol
I am gonna let my bro have the vial to pin it, see if he gets same issue. He probably won't because he is inhuman. He has some vials from me already. I brew for me and him only. (Multiple deployments together, know each other 20 years. He knows the rules of the game.)
Never resale, never travel with gear, leave it at home, always claim natty.. and host of other rules

[maxmuscle1]

Sounds like a contaminated vial. IDK though, just a guess.

Max

[ggandb]

Could be the mct, always gives me a bite at first. If you are getting some pip @ 100 then seems to me more oil = more pip. My quads are a lot more sensitive then glutes also, and if I get pip in the glutes then no way am I hitting quads. Good luck bro, hope you get it figured out.

[JJ14]

So brewed Test E as normal.
300mg/ml in MCT oil, 1%BA 7%BB
All filtered to same media bottle.
All transferred to sealed vials.
First vials virtually no pip. Small amount next day.
Now...
Last 2 vials of 5 remaining, have had more pip than normal.
Why would they have more PIP?

Anyone ever have this happen?
I never have.
Wasn't brewed too long ago.
Just weird.

I am coming off cruise, so maybe more injection volume. Started brand new vial with this blast. But I blasted with 1 of the vials before my cruise. No issue then or during cruise.

Cruise was 100mg E4D rotating glutes only.
Started blast wkth new vial with 1ml or 300mg Test E left glute, 1ml 300mg Deca right glute.
Test E side PIP and swelling. More than normal, lasted 3 days. 4th day rotated sides and location on glute. Test E side, same situation. My Deca is pure painless.
So yesterday, mixed in same syringe,0.5ml 150mg Test E and 0.5ml 150mg Deca and same with another syringe.
I was thinking maybe my ass needs a break.
Pinned quads. Quads have always been sensitive in the beginning. I mixed the Test E and Deca to make Test E volume half of what it was per injection site.
NOPE LOL!
8 hours later horrible PIP in quads, more than normal, and some swelling. No redness. Glad I didn't put all Test E in one quad. Took 600mg Ibuprofen and going to bed. Should be dissipated by morning.
This will give my ass an 8 day break.
So if I pin my glute again, and same issue, something is up.
No Test Flu yet.
Maybe I have just turned sissy bitch boy lol
I am gonna let my bro have the vial to pin it, see if he gets same issue. He probably won't because he is inhuman. He has some vials from me already. I brew for me and him only. (Multiple deployments together, know each other 20 years. He knows the rules of the game.)
Never resale, never travel with gear, leave it at home, always claim natty.. and host of other rules

I would def start pinning in more than just the glutes cause its gotta heal up a little before you inject in same areas and it's not gunna disperse with all the extra scar tissue building up. I've gotten infections from pinning in same areas when it was sore. It could be so many different things and i wouldnt just blame the brew off the rip. Could of moved the pin around to much while injecting, could go way to deep, to much pinning in same area. If your pinning in multiple areas with pip still then I would start questioning the brew.

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[Plate Smacker]

Yeah, all from the same brew, other vials had no issue. Setting vial aside, pinning from a new vial next time.
Quads were less sore yesterday morning, then as I moved around, got sore again. Took another 600mg Ibuprofen.
I work nights, so home now, still red and swollen. About 5 inch daimeter redness.
I have seen this before with some NPP.
So not freaking out. Body will probably fight it off, after this 8 hours of sleep.
I pin again on the 28th. See what happens. Pinning glutes.
Tossing a couple vials won't hurt my feelings.
I use bottle top filters 0.2um.
However, have some syringe filters:
I could always draw out Test E from vials, put in beaker and reheat to 200 for awhile, then refilter through a syringe filter. Then see what happens as an experiment.
Just kind of weird and this has never happened.

[maxmuscle1]

Yeah, all from the same brew, other vials had no issue. Setting vial aside, pinning from a new vial next time.
Quads were less sore yesterday morning, then as I moved around, got sore again. Took another 600mg Ibuprofen.
I work nights, so home now, still red and swollen. About 5 inch daimeter redness.
I have seen this before with some NPP.
So not freaking out. Body will probably fight it off, after this 8 hours of sleep.
I pin again on the 28th. See what happens. Pinning glutes.
Tossing a couple vials won't hurt my feelings.
Just kind of weird and this has never happened.

Yeah, I really cannot think of anything else other than it grew some microorganism. It’s the same batch so, the only thing that changed, is Time. IDK

Max

[Plate Smacker]

So, switched to new vial no issue.
I got the Test Flu twice while running cruise from contaminated vial. Then started blast on that vial. Really bad pip. Went to new vial, alot of pip redness swelling.
Then, went to another new vial, no issue.
So loss was around 10ml, from possibly contaminated vials. I have this good vial, and 2 more from that batch.
I just got 300g more Test E raws for future brewing.

So my only guess is possibly contaminated sealed sterile vials, two so far. That batch of vials is done, new package of new vials, different Lot and batch. So should be good.

Been a real shitty start to this year. CPAP sanitation issue(fixed with O3 cleaner sanitizer purchase) mixed with contaminated vials had me out first two weeks with test flu and other breathing issue.
Then just had 4 day stomach bug, but really 7 days to full recover. Vomiting for first 24 hours, then diarrhea for 4 days, literally pissing out my ass every 15 minutes, drinking gatorade, water, pedialyte, and tossing in some No Salt(potassium) and Sea salt.
I was well over the 15 poops should see a doctor, try more like 30 something liquid squirt episodes. Was constantly hydrating. Never got dehydrated, which is weird, because I was perplexed of where all the fluid was coming from that was exiting my ass. Had to resort to tapping not wiping from sore inner ass cheeks and bunghole from the wiping.

Finally feeling better, first real workout fornthe year today.. like WTF bro lol

[Caustic Charm]

So, switched to new vial no issue.
I got the Test Flu twice while running cruise from contaminated vial. Then started blast on that vial. Really bad pip. Went to new vial, alot of pip redness swelling.
Then, went to another new vial, no issue.
So loss was around 10ml, from possibly contaminated vials. I have this good vial, and 2 more from that batch.
I just got 300g more Test E raws for future brewing.

So my only guess is possibly contaminated sealed sterile vials, two so far. That batch of vials is done, new package of new vials, different Lot and batch. So should be good.

Been a real shitty start to this year. CPAP sanitation issue(fixed with O3 cleaner sanitizer purchase) mixed with contaminated vials had me out first two weeks with test flu and other breathing issue.
Then just had 4 day stomach bug, but really 7 days to full recover. Vomiting for first 24 hours, then diarrhea for 4 days, literally pissing out my ass every 15 minutes, drinking gatorade, water, pedialyte, and tossing in some No Salt(potassium) and Sea salt.
I was well over the 15 poops should see a doctor, try more like 30 something liquid squirt episodes. Was constantly hydrating. Never got dehydrated, which is weird, because I was perplexed of where all the fluid was coming from that was exiting my ass. Had to resort to tapping not wiping from sore inner ass cheeks and bunghole from the wiping.

Finally feeling better, first real workout fornthe year today.. like WTF bro lol

Damn brother your year has started off sucking! Sorry to hear about the contamination though, that truly sucks if you bought sealed and sterilized vials. I don't feel so bad about using the pressure cooker to sterilize mine now.

[Plate Smacker]

UPDATE: I figured out the issue. Needed more BB (benzyl benzoate) in brew:
Ran into this issue again. No flu tupe symptoms, just PIP and swollen knot at injection site. Usually around week 3 or 4 of new blast. I think the lower BB does not allow enough spread and travel at injection site and other factors.
If I mix it with my Tren E in the syringe, which has 18%BB, no problem.
Brewed up some Test E with 15%BB and haven't had an issue so far. Just an issue with the Deca that is an older brew with the 7%BB. As long as I mix it with the Test E or Tren E, it's fine. So future brews will have to be 15% BB for Test E and Deca.

[maxmuscle1]

UPDATE: I figured out the issue. Needed more BB (benzyl benzoate) in brew:
Ran into this issue again. No flu tupe symptoms, just PIP and swollen knot at injection site. Usually around week 3 or 4 of new blast. I think the lower BB does not allow enough spread and travel at injection site and other factors.
If I mix it with my Tren E in the syringe, which has 18%BB, no problem.
Brewed up some Test E with 15%BB and haven't had an issue so far. Just an issue with the Deca that is an older brew with the 7%BB. As long as I mix it with the Test E or Tren E, it's fine. So future brews will have to be 15% BB for Test E and Deca.

Nice. BA/BB definitely makes a huge difference; especially when making a guiaicol/EO free compound. I did a shit load of research on all the solvents and preservatives and oils over the years. Back then, I had no idea how much getting the correct choice of oil, BA/BB, and other factors made. Beyond the stability; it can change how much of the active is absorbed, how much is released into the system{total utilization}, and how long it it stays available. So much to learn yet, so fun. I knew at a super young age that I was interested in any science, chem, A&P, microbiology. I used to do these experiments a lot with my dad when I was like 8 -10 years old, so much fun. Later when I grew up, I realized what those {fun} lab experiments were............ they weren’t from the store. Lol. It was aromatherapy science . I give him shit about that all the time, he also said tobacco was in his pipe, too. Lol


Max