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      This thread is $$ have been looking for a good thread to get a good base and ideology of brewing! I'd like to know where to find the other stickies are for this.

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      Would you use the same method for tren E as you would for tren A ?

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      Great Thread and info,
      I'm new to home brewing, just beginning to order all my supplies need to get set up.
      I have a friend who a has a home brew lab setup, we have a small circle.
      I'm every interested in making my own now, again thanks

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      Quote Originally Posted by overburdened View Post
      OB's Brewing 101

      ok, this one is coming in as segments,then if you guys want ill condense it to one post, once ive completed writing it...

      remember guys, if you want directions on a specific compound,ask hereor pm me(if you want to remain anonymous), and ill post up specifics for that..

      also,i will getinto oralsolutions and capping on another thread....if you want specifics on anything ljke that, let me know... as far as capping, i can give you filler amounts and everyghing(on a few different fillers), so if you want to use those fillers i can write instructions with all powder weights and e erything... i dont mind doing any of that, so you guys will feel comfortable taking that dive into brewing...
      also, i dont mind walking anyone through their first brew... if you want me to do this, pm me and let me know a time and date, and illbe on pm to walk you tough(ill do thus as much as absolutely possile, but keep in mind that we may need to schedule a little with things like that being at i do have otber obligations as well, which include paying clients(bodybuilding, physique, diets, etc...) and, obviously those are priority...




      Brewing101'


      Here's a guide to making your own oil based aas. Everything in this guide can be extrapolated to apply to short esters, long esters, and long/short blends, as well as more complex blends, including high potency blends(to allow for fewer injections).

      To start with, you will need a few pieces of lab ware. You actually have a fair bit of freedom with this, depending on how serious you are about brewing, and the type of quantities you are planning on making... So, you can actually get into it for very little cost, and expand if you feel comfortable doing so, if you even need to expand....

      Here is a general list(based on small, personal use quantities... I'll also list things you can use in place of certain things....)


      • Heat resistant glassware(several pieces... 100ml minimum glassware is easier to work with)
      • Glass stir rod(this CAN be used but I choose not to use any type of stirring device, as it is just another method to possibly introduce bacteria.. I swirl everything)
      • Heat source(a stove top works fine if you make that area of your kitchen sterile... I'll get into that later)
      • A saucepan or skillet Different sized syringes used for measuring oil, solvents, etc(3,10,20,60 ml will all come in handy...)
      • A scale accurate down to. 01g is sufficient
      • 90percent isopropyl alcohol
      • Solvents (for the most part benzyl alcohol, benzyl benzoate will suffice.... For more exotic compounds, guiacol and ethyl oleate will also come in handy.
      • Oil carrier of choice(I've found usp cottonseed oil to be the most smooth, you can use many different oils, and even blends of carrier oils)
      • Vials(either sealed, sterile vials, or vials with butyl stoppers and crimp caps)
      • Filtration system(this could be as small scale as syringe filters, or as big as 1000plus ml... Depending on your needs.


      This wraps up necessary products needed to brew with, and are actually very easy to find online..

      Next installation of this article will come soon

      Brewing101' cont'd

      To cover the basics of brewing(and, honestly, there are more ways to do this than the way I describe.... But, I feel for home purposes, safety purposes, and small scale operations (personal use), that this is the easiest, and best process to use.) The basis behind brewing is simply to get a powder /crystalline /solid(aas raws) to dissolve into an oily(oil based) carrier, so they may be delivered parenterally (by injection... Intramuscular in most cases.... NEVER INTRAVEINOUS, EVEN WITH WATER BASED AAS, SUCH AS TEST SUSPENSION, ETC). This can be accomplished using the following directions (these would apply, generally, to all injectable aas preparations.... Though some would have minor details changed) :

      *decide the amount of finished product desired (or, decide how much finished product you can make, with the raw powder you have, at the potency desired.., whichever you choose) I'll go over math and conversions in one complete segment, so it can easily be referred to at any time.... But for example, you are wanting to make 100ml of test enanth at 250mg/ml(100ml X 250mg = 25000mg.... 25000mg=25g.. So you would need 25g of test enanth raw (I like to use a 10 percent upward variance, just to make sure nothing is ever UNDER dosed... You may want to do the same, and you may not... Just decide, then always use that method. That way your product is always consistent..... So 25g X 10 percent is 2.5g...so, I would use 27.5g instead of 25g, and my finished product would actually be 275mg/ml... So I know it's never dosed under!!!

      *I like to keep things simple, so I'm going to tell you how to do the brew without ever having to get into figuring the displacement of the powder weights when dissolved, etc... You will measure out your finished volume in 90 percent isopropyl alcohol (you can use acetone if desired also.... It's actually my preference, since it evaporates clean, with No residue, in seconds.)., pour that volume into your glassware you will prepare your solution in. Mark(on outside of glass... With tape, or a sharpie.. Whatever) the line of the volume(in this case, 100ml)....so, you know exactly where your final fill level is, in the glassware you are using....

      *dump isopropyl or acetone out if glassware and shake glassware til all liquid is out that will come out.... Gently warm the the glassware in the microwave to evaporate....

      *once glassware is clear, clean, and dry, you will put your weighed powder(aas raws) into the glassware

      *next, you will add solvents... The easiest way to remember the correct order of adding solvents, is to add the ones closer to the end of the alphabet, first (example : if using guiacol, you will add it before benzyl alcohol). Solvents can be a little tricky, but most of the time, benzyl alcohol and benzyl benzoate are sufficient.... I don't use guiacol myself, because of personal reasons, but it makes ester free compounds possible to make into solutions (tne, winny, anadrol, etc) ******word of caution, NEVER USE OVER 2.5 PERCENT BA.(FINAL SOLUTION CONCENTRATION), it can be necrotic to the tissue it is injected in, and it is a possible carcinogen.... There's ways to make higher potency gear with out overdoing the BA... It's not worth a necrotic lesion in your ass!!! ******** You can use the least amount(within reason... Cause they are both sterility agents and preservatives... As well as the fact, they thin the final solution to a degree, so it will flow smoothly through smaller gauge needles) of solvents necessary for whatever you are making... Short ester compounds generally require more solvents, and long esters require less, generally... If in doubt, go with 2/20 percent BA/BB....

      ***Back up a step... I spaced this... Put about 2"of water in skillet or saucepan and fill a glassware with about as much oil as you will want finished product, set glassware in water, gently bring water to a very low boil.... Let oil remain there heating til you are ready to use it.... It will bring it to about 200 degrees farenheit, and help sterilize it, as well as make it work better mixing solution and filtering, due to it being hit...

      ***put the glassware with raws and solvent in it, into the saucepan of slow boiling water.... Swirl it by holding the top with a paper towel(I just use my hands, after I sterilize them, but my hands are numb to quite high temps... The glassware will get hot!) every minute or two til raw is completely dissolved... Some take 30 min, but most are dissolved in 5 min or less(tren is highly heat sensitive, I'll write a separate article for brewing tren ace, just so you don't accident oxidize it...)

      ****once fully dissolved, you will either pour(if no condensation on outside of heated oil) or draw with large syringes, the hot oil, and add til it is to the line you've made at the 100ml mark... Then gently swirl for one full minute.

      ***filter finished solution into either sterile sealed or sterile unsealed vials(if unsealed, insert stopper, crimp ring, and crimp stopper on)




      Brewing blends


      **brewing blends can be done exactly like described prior... But, you can achieve much higher potencies with blends than is normally possible with single compound oils....

      **example : Say we want a 300mg/ml 'cut blend' Using standard 2/20 BA/BB, we can get a blend of test prop/tren ace/master prop to hold perfectly, and isn't extremely painful(pip can be brought down more even, using eo/cso blend)

      Just follow same directions... When heating oil, you will blend the eo and the cottonseed oil in glassware at percentage you want prior to heating in hot water bath.... Do everything else the same, and add eo/cso blend to fill line as if it were just regular cso.

      I'll list some things you can use in place of lab glassware, for those that would like to be able to purchase the product at the store and take a wack at brewing before investing in Pyrex... I'll also list some cool blends, and their benefits, in the next installment....

      Then I will get into oral solutions/suspensions and capping..... Keep checking back guys... And don't forget, if you want directions now, for something specific... Feel free to pm me....



      TREN ACE


      Tren ace directions For tren ace, you will follow the directions in brew 101, the only differences will be temp of water in saucepan and how you add solvents.

      **You will want to have your water no hotter than 185F in saucepan, when making tren ace. Let oil heat in glassware for 30 min(so it is brought to 185F, like the water it is sitting in... That way the prepared tren does not have to heat any longer than absolutely necessary)

      **when adding solvents, bring BA content down to 1.5%,but do not add it straight to powder.... You will draw up BB, and in same syringe, draw the BA into the BB, then add the solution to the powder.... Working quickly, move glassware with powder and solvent into hot water bath, do not set it down though. Keep ahold of the glassware and swirl gently til it is dissolved(this will only take 10 - 60 seconds... Pull it out of heat the second it's dissolved, add 185 degree oil to your line you have marked on glassware and swirl....

      ***filter and bottle..

      It's imperative you work quickly and pay attention, tren oxidizes easily from heat, especially when BA is present.... You can make tren ace in excess of 120mg/ml with only 1.5%BA/20%Bb(however, I recommend making it at 75-100mg because it will put you down and you won't be able to breathe if you cough off 120+mg tren ace! Trust me know that... Lol)



      Capping orals

      To cap orals you will need the following:

      Coffee grinder (any inexpensive one will work) Capping machine (these can be purchased on amazon.com for less than $30...I'm partial to the CAP M QUICK brand...

      the 50 cap machine in that brand runs 28$... I prefer the size 0 caps/machine, this is the one the filler weights
      I list will work with.,, if you get a different one, I'll explain how to calculate filler weight, but you will be on
      your own to figure them out..)

      A suitable filler(I normally use sugar, due to cost... you can use N-acetyl-cysteine for more toxic orals, I can give
      you weights for that in about a week.. I forgot cause I haven't used it in a while) Empty caps... these can be purchased online or bought in some healthfood stores(the hippy stores usually have them.. they cost about $12 for 1000 caps..

      That completes the list of things you will need...

      I'll use superdrol as an example.. and tell you how to calculate everything, then I'll give you weights for size 0 caps...

      For superdrol, you will want the caps to be 10mg each(of sdrol)... to make 100 caps you will weigh out 1g of sdrol(10mg x 100caps = 1000mg= 1g).. set this aside on a piece of paper til you are ready to mix everything... To calculate filler(filler is the extra substance you mix with the active compound in order to have the caps full to capacity, and contain only the desired amount of active compound... since trying to weigh and fill caps with only 10mg of sdrol powder would be nearly impossible to do with any accuracy, and could end uo being dangerous if you had any overfill on the caps), you want to take five capsules, set them on the scale and weigh them... then divide by five, this is your capsule weight(write it down... the size 0 NOW FOODS brand weigh .09g)... now, put those five caps in your cap
      machine and fill them with desired filler.. tamp the filler, fill again, tamp, etc.. till cap is packed full... then
      put bottom of cap on, and weigh them again(all 5).. divide that weight by 5 and subtract capsule weight... this will
      give you your filler weight(ex: 5 filled caps weigh 3.2g.. 3200mg/5=640mg-90mg(cap weight)=550mg.. so filler
      weighs 550mg(this is filler weight for sugar for a size 0 cap)...multiply this times 100caps... 550mg x 100=55000mg=55g...
      55g of sugar is needed for 100 size 0 caps... Active compound weight doesn't affect total weight of filler and active unless your active is going to be 50mg or more... but, if you want everything EXACT, subtract active compound weight from the filler weight, and use the lower(subtracted)
      filler weight(ex: we are using 1g of sdrol, subtract 1g from 55g=54g of filler)... You will want to put half the filler in coffee grinder, then put your active comp in, then the other half of the filler, so 27g sugar, 1g sdrol, then 27g sugar... close grinder, mix powders together for 2 minutes in the coffee grinder(I shake
      and tilt the grinder while it's mixing, to get any product that may be sticking to the sides mixed in well...) Now, set-up capping machine, put empty caps in, then put powder on machine and fill caps using a card(credit card, drivers license... whatever), tamp, then fill again, tamp, etc.. till they're packed full... can them, take them out of capping machine...

      Here is a little trick I use when I'm done... put a few tablespoons of salt in a bowl, put captain with the
      salt and shake them in a circular manner... the salt removes any powder on the outside of caps, and removes any
      moisture from your hands so the caps don't end up with any holes in them after sitting in a bottle for a while..
      pull the caps out, letting salt fall through your fingers, transfer caps to a baggie or bottle... a little salt in
      the bottle or baggie is fine(it's actually good cause iy absorbs any moisture while the caps are stored...
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