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    Thread: Ice or Heat - "Which Should I Apply?"

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      Any acute injury that has swelling involved should be iced and elevated if possible for 48-72 hours. If it's a joint or sprain ice alone is fine. If the acute injury is being rested and stable ice will provide no improvement in pain or function past 48hrs. If you keep reaggravting the same injury then re icing can be beneficial.

      Muscles in general need more heat to heal. Less fluid tends to pile up around a muscle like it does in joint spaces. Usually swelling around a muscle is a hematoma. Heat will improve circulation (increased blood flow heals) and also speed up the reabsorption of the hematoma. It can still be helpful to ice the muscle initially but usually 1-2 days of ice is sufficient for strains.

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      If you look at this from a molecular stand point and ask yourself why the swelling is there then it becomes obvious that ice has no place in the healing process


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      Quote Originally Posted by busa2009 View Post
      If you look at this from a molecular stand point and ask yourself why the swelling is there then it becomes obvious that ice has no place in the healing process


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      Swelling is the reason. Swelling causes pain and can decrease amount of blood flow getting to and away from the injury.

      Yes ice detracts blood flow as well but its a means to an end. Blood flow will be improved after swelling is decreased.

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      Quote Originally Posted by teej750 View Post
      Swelling is the reason. Swelling causes pain and can decrease amount of blood flow getting to and away from the injury.

      Yes ice detracts blood flow as well but its a means to an end. Blood flow will be improved after swelling is decreased.

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      Yes blood flow is good and the best but your body doesnt make mistakes the inflammation is there for a reason and it’s phagocytes. First I get your point relieving pain is for our comfort but does nothing that is efficient in helping the body recover. Simple analogy if me and you do jumping jacks in a room the temperature will rise due to ATP same as the the repair cells T’s phagocytosis it produces heat due them working.


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      Quote Originally Posted by busa2009 View Post
      Yes blood flow is good and the best but your body doesnt make mistakes the inflammation is there for a reason and it’s phagocytes. First I get your point relieving pain is for our comfort but does nothing that is efficient in helping the body recover. Simple analogy if me and you do jumping jacks in a room the temperature will rise due to ATP same as the the repair cells T’s phagocytosis it produces heat due them working.


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      Our body does what it needs to do to survive but it isn't always good for us or what we want at the time.

      If we are dieting to lose weight our Metabolism will readjust causing our calorie defecit to be in vain.

      The initial injury causes vasodilation and essentially a leaky endothelium. Unless your icing it AS THE INJURY occurred the process has already started. Histamine, leukotrienes, bradykinin, nitric oxide are in a battle to cause dilation and contraction. All the ice does is stop the body from overdoing something, bc it will overdo it. An injured ankle is the primary concern at the time. Not icing it allows it to do so at the cost of significantly more swelling and pain though.

      Always ice an injury initially, especially a joint. Some swelling is ok but too much is counterproductive.

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      Hello,

      If you are on tik tok, then you must have seen that since last couple of years there is a trend going on which known as Gua Sha, it is believed that Gua Sha for lymphatic drainage, makes muscles more agile and helps with pain.

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