what the hells going on?

**gtodan01** · 01-24-2014, 07:18 PM

sup guys im a 42 year old 275 pound gear head training since 1990 and ive recently starrted a cycle of test E at 750mgs a week and tren ace at 400mgs a week eod pins of 100 mgs and bold/cyp at 600 a week eod pins of 200mgs, also i was taking superdrol 20mgs a day at two doses of 10mgs a day, for two weeks, that i just stopped today because my eyes were red and dry everyday and my face turned into a god damn beach ball full of water, i feel bloated and tired, in your opinion what the hecks going on? i feel so bloated? is my estegen out of whack. i dont feel bad as a matter of fact i feel great i benched 455 for the first time. but my eyes are constantly red and running and a face like a bulldog. am i screwing up , is there something here that looks bad? please any help would be appreciated

**08gsxr** · 01-24-2014, 07:24 PM

With the bloating is the estrogen, IMO. I've had the same issue with my eyes watering and that mess.. I lowered my dose and it went away.

**Dont wanna be old** · 01-24-2014, 07:52 PM

Take some dex and you'll know next day .
If not the superdrol is harsh .

**beanlicker** · 01-24-2014, 08:05 PM

If you are truly concerned, you should get your bloodwork done. I would if I were you.

Here is a guide for getting bloodwork: http://brotherhoodofpain.com/showthr...s-for-Lab-work

**xmuscle** · 01-25-2014, 12:35 AM

Keep an eye on ur blood pressure. Like bean said best to get a blood panel done

**Khem** · 01-25-2014, 12:45 AM

Lower your testosterone to 250mg. In-fact, don't take a test shot for 10ish days and you'll be in the range of that dose, then take 250mg from that day forward. Its the testosterone, I believe trenbolone binds stronger than test, so test is floating around causing all androgenic side effects, so to speak.

High test / low tren never worked for me either.

Reverse the ratio. Higher tren than test. Keep test near replacement doses.

As a side note my upcoming cycle will be the same injects yours.. Low test, Moderate Tren, high EQ.

**hunkstrum** · 01-25-2014, 02:36 AM

Drop the superdrol; it's unnecessary, especially with all that other gear and especially at your age. 750mgs of test should turn your face into a full, giant diaper if you're not taking an AI or SERM. 500mg turns me into a smooth, sloshing mess.

**gtodan01** · 01-27-2014, 05:47 PM

i think your right so i dropped the superdrol (damn it) i wana take the whole course but its
either to damn toxic or it just messes with me to much , also i threw some dex into the mix,
it's only been 4 days but i feel alot better , i think im shedding some water to , but my eyes are
the big improvement , they dont burn and itch all day, thanks bro

**boldone** · 01-27-2014, 10:07 PM

You have a lot of compounds listed, but no AI. What are you using for estrogen? Tren and Test use the same receptors, with that said, Tren is much more powerful and will win over the receptor. This will leave a large portion of that Test dose to roam free and cause excessive estrogen sides.