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      60 years old

      Ok I introduced myself 2 weeks ago. I'm 60 and have been training for a long time. I started using test about a year ago. Before that I pretty much trained natural. Tried some pro hormones, and sarms. Noticed that using test I got leaner without doing not much different. Definitely liked that plus I just feel so much better. Been doing 500 a week pretty much for a year. 250 2 times a week. Been using a few different sources. Last source I feel like I got low dose or crap stuff. I have lost my leanness and definition. I'm thinking of trying tren. But I'm leary of where to get it. I would definitely still use test with this. Or should I just do low dose test from a good source? I figure that at my age I will just always do trt. And not worry about pct.

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      Maybe at your age avoid tren. Many bad side effects, wreaks havoc on your cholesterol among other things. Maybe try so anavar with your test. Anavar is fairly safe and should give you some nice lean gains.

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      Try 2 or 300 mgs. of deca per week before you go for tren, you will like the deca.

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      Quote Originally Posted by GaryC View Post
      I'm 60 and have been training for a long time. I started using test about a year ago. Been doing 500 a week pretty much for a year. 250 2 times a week.

      R. Welcome here. 500mgs Test a week is definitely not TRT, more of a year round Test cycle. TRT doses are at most 200mgs a week and or below that level.

      Personally, I think 500mgs of Test a week for someone in his 60's should be cycled, then PCT. Maybe once or twice a year.

      But for year-round always on Test for a 60+ year old should be done at a low dose TRT dose of anywhere between 100-200mg twice a week. In the long run its much healthier, less sides then 500mg Test a week.

      Long term health & longevity is much more important than any short term muscle gains. More so for 60+ guys. You can always add in lower dose Anabolics such as Deca, EQ, Anavar, T-Bol to your lower dose TRT. Sounds like a better plan.

      I have lost my leanness and definition.

      R. Are you using an AI or HCG weekly? Do you do labs? Need to keep an eye on your hematocrit levels and other lab values to stay healthy and alive.

      I'm thinking of trying tren.

      R. Nothing against Tren, but I agree with the others about sides (Heart, cholesterol, BP, etc.) at your age. Deca, EQ, Anavar and T-Bol maybe?

      EQ has less sides than Deca(A Progestin) and is a bit better than Deca for soft tissue injuries so I've read. Anavar shares similar capabilities and reduces SHBG.

      But I'm leary of where to get it. Or should I just do low dose test from a good source?

      R. AEL has a good reputation with their stuff, good communication. Monster also. There are other good sources here, just have to read the reviews under each source.

      Read this link by BOP member Zombieslayer on this/your question of dosing: Strengthening Tendons, Weakening Tendons. Gives a dosing protocol for those looking to keep tendons and soft tissue injuries at a minimum. While doing combo PED's Deca/Test, Test/EQ, etc. This thread link should answer some of your questions.

      The gist of that thread for injury healing anyway is to use low dose Test 200mg a week or under to maintain test levels. Which is a much safer/healthier year-round TRT dose and Deca or EQ for the extra healing qualities they both provide. This protocol seems to fit the agenda for older folks/weight lifters more susceptible to injuries than those of a younger age. But it works for both.

      I figure that at my age I will just always do trt. And not worry about pct.
      R. Sounds about right if your going to be on TRT year-round.

      That low dose TRT/EQ/Anavar or T-Bol thing sounds like a game plan for you. T-Bol has less sides than D-Bol. But both Anavar and T-Bol will skew cholesterol levels some. So T-Bol or Anavar would/should be cycled at around 6-8 weeks, while maintaining a low dose TRT schedule.

      Hope this helps, good luck.
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      Thanks for the response guys. I have not done blood work. It is on my list to do. I have not done hcg. But I do take exemestane twice a week with my pins. I actually have lowered my dose to 250 a week, starting today. I'll probably do this till Dec. Then add something else. Was also thinking of equi. But worry about thickening my blood at my age. Also was thinking of deca, but dont want the bloat. Thats why I was thinking of tren. I like the way you guys think on this site. Unlike others that would just say up the dose and go for it! Ha ha.

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      Great information in this thread. The Brothers here won't let you down. You're at the right place.

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      But worry about thickening my blood at my age.

      R. Test can do that just as well as Deca, EQ, etc. can. Whether your 30 or 60. Just need to occasionally check your hematocrit levels to be aware of what's going on with your blood. To see if you need to donate blood to lower your hematocrit levels if high.

      Should be doing a complete panel tho if you've been "ON" for a year straight. Estrogen Sensitive is a must do lab.

      I actually have lowered my dose to 250 a week, starting today.

      R. Good move for the long run. Try splitting the dose into two injections a week to maintain more stable T levels. And to help maintain more stable estrogen levels to the point you could probably lower your AI dosages.

      I have not done hcg.

      R. You could do it twice a week along with your twice a week T injections. Say around 300IU's once or twice a week. Depending on how plump you want the boys to be?
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      I am actually doing 2 pins a week, Monday am and Thursday pm. Thats when I do my AI 2 times a week. Low dose 25mg week slit into the 2 doses. Could probably do less than that. No sore or itchy nips here. Also, the boys look and feel pretty normal.

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      I would avoid the Tren , I am 55 and enjoy a test / NPP cycle. I make good gains , joints feel better

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      Ya man npp is fast acting deca, short ester nandrolone, probably won't bloat you up. Sounds like great advice from Murphy there talking from experience in a similar age bracket.

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