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      Build My Next Cycle.

      Hey guys, 72 year old dude here. Am I the oldest dude here?

      Looking for suggestion for my next cycle starting sometime in Dec/Jan. 2018/2019.

      Last cycle was with EQ 600mgs a week. TRT 350IU's twice a week of Cyp test a week. Was doing Tren 400mgs a week, but had to back out due to sleep issues. So stopped the Tren and did 50mg of Tren base, sometimes mixed with Test base before workouts only. Maybe 3 times a week. I also used P.P. Frog Juice before workouts, alternating between FG and the Test/Tren bases. Was using various orals mostly after I stopped the injectables, ie; Var, Winstrol, Turinabol and Proviron.

      Last injection was Tren base on 8/17/18. Last oral was on 8/22/18. Have been doing just my normal 350IU Test Cyp injection since. Sometimes I forget to do my TRT injection for a week or two. But I keep a record of same, so I just inject when I see I'm late. It doesn't seem to effect me much, if at all? So its been about 5 weeks w/o any anabolics. I occasionally do HGH, 2-3 units maybe 3 times a week.

      I've had all my blood panels done recently in the last two weeks everything looks good/normal, cholesterol levels are in the normal ranges.

      What I have on hand is: 10ml vials of P.P. Labs 1-Frog Juice (Anadrol 25mg, Dianabol 25mg, Test no ester 50mg, Tren no ester 50mg) and 1-Test Undecanate 250mg/ml vial. Also have Cabaser 1mg tabs, Aromasin 25mg tabs, 1-200mg/ml Pharma 3 Tren Blend, 1-100mg/ml Pharma Mix (Tren 25mg, Test 50 mg, Stanozol 25mg. And als have Bitiron (T4 50mcg & T3 12.5mcg). I have a script for T3-5mcg tabs which I take every day along with one Bitiron tab.

      So any suggestions for a stack starting around Dec/Jan 2018/2019 would be appreciated. I was listening to one of Dave Palumbo's video's on YouTube and he mentioned a Test/Masteron stack yields good body mass results. I'm not looking to do a show or be a mass monster, rather just a buff beach bod type. Or maybe for a photo profile to make the gurls go Damn Son I want a piece of that, lol? If possible? It gets harder as U get older to put on and hold muscle, just my exp. I really don't feel any of the anabolics I've mentioned/used, but they weren't in massive quantities either. So my gains weren't that great, but I did the best I could with the weights.

      I've noticed a dramatic loss of strength as I get older, especially with the legs. Even tho I ride a bike everywhere around town. That's why we don't see Mr. Olympia's over a certain age. Just can't hold that mass, strength naturally decreases as we age. Just have to do the best U can.

      So any questions, fire away amigo's. Thanks, Sumguy.

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      Dang brother you’re a rare dude!!! I don’t know what to tell yeah. How long have you been dabbling with AAS? How do you feel at your age while on cycle? I imagine great lol. Why did you stop injections?

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      Running cycles at 75 years old wow lol! Why not just stick to test/hgh and last as long as you can? Arnold is 75 as well...hmmmm

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      At 72 and still exercising and training as best you can in combination with the bike is awesome.
      I agree ^^^^^ the cyp and HGH is a nice combo. But you really need to remember or put an alarm on your phone, or something, to do regular injections.
      I would pin the Cyp M-W-F and run the HGH 2-4ius twice daily for 5 on and 2 off. M-F is what I would do.
      Never really counted on Tren to bulk but if you threw in some Deca I'm sure you'd see some gains.
      Maybe slow down on so many bike rides. Good to get cardio but you could also be burning too many calories. Diet would determine.
      But at least keep those injections regular.
      I would start the cruise and HGH asap and blast away later in the year.
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      Why did u stop injecting?
      I am 45 & stopped orals for the most part just to save my liver & so hgh is more in comverting

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      Quote Originally Posted by RockDawg View Post
      Dang brother you’re a rare dude!!! I don’t know what to tell yeah. How long have you been dabbling with AAS? How do you feel at your age while on cycle? I imagine great lol. Why did you stop injections?
      R. Thanks, sorry for the late reply, tried many times to get back on the site but it keep spinning and timing out and giving me a "Try again later" message? Anybody else have this problem?

      As to your reply yea, I do feel pretty rare doing what I'm doing, but you do see older dudes getting buff in videos on YouTube and stuff.

      I've only been dabbling with AAS a few times, most recently with low dose TRT about a 1-1/2 years now. I tried some Equipose a year ago, but it was only like 300mg a week. This last time was like 600mgs a week with the other stuff I mentioned. I gained several pounds, but not anything you would notice like 15-20lbs.

      How do you feel at your age while on cycle?

      R. I would say I really didn't feel much of anything to be honest. I don't why this is? I thought I would, but I didn't. Maybe I was a bit stronger or recovered better IDK? But I didn't experience that feeling of well-being? Again, IDK why? Maybe that's with higher dosage T injections IDK? I mean I did Tren 400mgs a week for awhile, but again didn't notice anything, other than I had trouble sleeping while on it. So I said F that, sleep is more important to me. So I tried the tren base before workouts, which has a much shorter time it actually works. So its in and out rather quickly. Rather than a long ester like Tren enthanate.

      My sources came from legit sources here on the board. So doubt it was the gear.

      I did do Tren years ago with the cow pellets years and I got/had that alpha male thing going on. That increased confidence thing. But I didn't get it this time around? Just seemed like another normal day at the gym. My pumps seemed to be increase tho, like it would be kind of painful like. That's one thing I noticed. I noticed the muscles getting more defined and harder, but nothing drastic like a wow kind of thing? Or like hell yea that dudes on gear look, lol?

      Why did you stop injections?

      R. Just following cycle protocol, 16 weeks for Equipose. Once I got to 16 weeks I stopped. Then did another 3-4 weeks of the orals mentioned above. Then I stopped that. And I've been clean since just to let the body get back to its normal self. Time on equals time, off sounds good to me or makes sense.

      So now I'm looking for advice/suggestions on a different cycle to start sometime in Dec./Jan of 2018-2019.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Hnausa View Post
      Running cycles at 75 years old wow lol! Why not just stick to test/hgh and last as long as you can? Arnold is 75 as well...hmmmm
      R. Thanks. Yea don't see many guys my age posting here, but hey? Should have an "Over 60" sub-forum, lol. That's my basic program for now. Just do the low dose TRT thing with HGH 3-4 times a week, sometimes less. Sometimes I just forget or I'm too tired and fall asleep. Yea Arnold is getting there, but he stays active looking at his YouTube video's. I do notice a big strength decrease in the leg department tho. Can't push the weights I did when I was in my 50's.

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      Quote Originally Posted by LowT View Post
      At 72 and still exercising and training as best you can in combination with the bike is awesome.
      I agree ^^^^^ the cyp and HGH is a nice combo. But you really need to remember or put an alarm on your phone, or something, to do regular injections.

      R. Right I agree, but I don't really notice any fatigue or the like if I am late?

      I would pin the Cyp M-W-F and run the HGH 2-4ius twice daily for 5 on and 2 off. M-F is what I would do.

      R. My TRT clinic wants me to do 350IU's twice a week. But sometimes I draw too much, like 500IU's, but I don't squeeze the excess back in the vial. Not that big a deal to me. But it does show on your labs if U do 500 and not 350IU's.

      Never really counted on Tren to bulk but if you threw in some Deca I'm sure you'd see some gains.

      R. Yea I was thinking that, but Deca is a progesterone, some sides with that. Not sure what ancillary to take with Deca? Have some Cabaser (Cabergoline), use that?

      Maybe slow down on so many bike rides. Good to get cardio but you could also be burning too many calories. Diet would determine.

      R. I just bought an Electric bike, so much easier to bike now or get around town in/on. I'm sure I will burn less calories now, but I get to the gym a lot quicker! lol.

      But at least keep those injections regular.

      R. Will try to, I have a record of that on my word processor.

      I would start the cruise and HGH asap and blast away later in the year.
      R. Start the cruise U mean the TRT and HGH? I'm already doing that. I'll do a cycle later in the year when I get a cycle put together.

      So How much Deca do you think would be good for an oldey like me self?

      I was thinking of trying Masteron in a cycle. Like maybe Test, Deca, Masteron? Not sure about dosages tho? Never tried Masteron or Deca? Any suggestions welcomed. I got time to build a cycle.

      Oh, like that ass in the pic!


      Thanks again.
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      Quote Originally Posted by chadmack282 View Post
      Why did u stop injecting?
      I am 45 & stopped orals for the most part just to save my liver & so hgh is more in comverting
      R. As mentioned I did a 16 week Equipose cycle and stopped for the health reasons given. My liver enzymes were good, so I wasn't that concerned. I took liver protection supps throughout the cycle as a precaution. So I was G2G. If your doing Anadrol or methylated orals then yes, your going to have more issues and more concerns. I try to stay away from those harsh chemicals.

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      Quote Originally Posted by sumguy View Post
      R. Start the cruise U mean the TRT and HGH? I'm already doing that. I'll do a cycle later in the year when I get a cycle put together.

      So How much Deca do you think would be good for an oldey like me self?

      I was thinking of trying Masteron in a cycle. Like maybe Test, Deca, Masteron? Not sure about dosages tho? Never tried Masteron or Deca? Any suggestions welcomed. I got time to build a cycle.

      Oh, like that ass in the pic!


      Thanks again.
      Sorry so late to get back with you.

      Yes, caber will do just fine with the deca or any 19-Nor, especially Tren. I don't think you'd have any issues with 600mgs EW. I prefer M-W-F injections but you can get away with e3d.
      Ok, I didn't know you were still doing your trt and gh. Should have known though. Good, you can add the deca. It'll take 4-5 weeks before you start seeing results but when it kicks in, it's good shit. You can also do NPP @ 100mgs EOD for starters instead of the deca. It's just the short ester version of deca. Less water retention. I like both. A lot.
      Haha.... yeah, I'm a leg and ass man!!
      Subscribing to this thread so I can keep up and get back in a timely manner.
      And hey, I just turned 50 and been using since 1996. I converted the pellets as well from 2003-2012 and then they disappeared. Had a great source too. I miss those bad boys.
      Have a good one.
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