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      Its not that complicated. Everyone nowadays seems to want to run 8 fxxking items but they have their test at trt dose?!! Test is what makes a man a man! Not feeling manly enough? Up the fxxking test and never mind all the gh and short ester dailys and fancy high-maintenence shit! Run a gram of test a week and I guarantee you you wont need 8 other compounds!

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      Quote Originally Posted by IRISHOAK View Post
      Its not that complicated. Everyone nowadays seems to want to run 8 fxxking items but they have their test at trt dose?!! Test is what makes a man a man! Not feeling manly enough? Up the fxxking test and never mind all the gh and short ester dailys and fancy high-maintenence shit! Run a gram of test a week and I guarantee you you wont need 8 other compounds!
      I agree and I'll add a little more.

      IMO the 3 sex hormones make a man "a man." And IMO DHT is where it's at if you want the alpha male feel. All AAS are formulated off the Testosterone molecule with small changes. These small changes have profound affects. IMO Nandrolone is as close as you can get to Testosterone. When I run high Test with high Deca the sides are wicked and I have to run a list of ancillaries. I'm planning an 800mg Deca/300mg Test E blast soon. I also run Finasteride with it so down regulation to 5α-dihydro-19-nortestosterone is reduced.

      My logic behind running low Test and for example high Nandrolone, Boldenone or Primo is when I run high Test as well I deal with much more sides. When it comes to stacking 1g of Test and for example 400 EQ or 300 Deca is not something I'm gonna do.

      I do agree running for example a 5 hormone stack is over kill. I just read this stack yesterday & guess what he's 6' 210lbs! That's absurd! If I was running that many hormones and had those stats I'd immediately stop everything down to a Test cruise and get a new game plan.

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      Sorry shit I'm rambling......for me at 44 I get much more of an Alpha feel from DHT (derivatives). For me high Testosterone only fits in a bulk blast. I heavily down regulate Test starting @ 400 - 500mg E a week. @ 400mg a week my dose to Total T ratio = 8 x dose so Total T averages 3200. @750mg a week I down regulate at a higher rate and Total T on average is 4 - 5 x dose....so 750mg is usually between 3000 - 3750. 400 Test a week for me is much less down regulation and IMO that's where the undesirable sides kick in. When I last ran 1g a week of Test I looked like a fucking chipmunk which in a bulk blast is an acceptable side.


      My last bulk was a while back and it's likely I won't bulk again for yrs to come. I've settled at 237 and at my age I don't hold weight the way I did at 25 or 35. I'm much happier 237 with a solid six pack, hard as granite, and vascular asf.

      I don't disagree with ya IO, you're points are all valid, just sharing where I'm at in my journey. I sure asf wish I could run a gram of Test a week and experience the results you do. Gawwd that would be fucking amazing. That's paradise!
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      Quote Originally Posted by Riggs View Post
      I agree and I'll add a little more.

      IMO the 3 sex hormones make a man "a man." And IMO DHT is where it's at if you want the alpha male feel. All AAS are formulated off the Testosterone molecule with small changes. These small changes have profound affects. IMO Nandrolone is as close as you can get to Testosterone. When I run high Test with high Deca the sides are wicked and I have to run a list of ancillaries. I'm planning an 800mg Deca/300mg Test E blast soon. I also run Finasteride with it so down regulation to 5α-dihydro-19-nortestosterone is reduced.

      My logic behind running low Test and for example high Nandrolone, Boldenone or Primo is when I run high Test as well I deal with much more sides. When it comes to stacking 1g of Test and for example 400 EQ or 300 Deca is not something I'm gonna do.

      I do agree running for example a 5 hormone stack is over kill. I just read this stack yesterday & guess what he's 6' 210lbs! That's absurd! If I was running that many hormones and had those stats I'd immediately stop everything down to a Test cruise and get a new game plan.

      Test
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      Primo
      Proviron
      Anadrol

      Sorry shit I'm rambling......for me at 44 I get much more of an Alpha feel from DHT (derivatives). For me high Testosterone only fits in a bulk blast. I heavily down regulate Test starting @ 400 - 500mg E a week. @ 400mg a week my dose to Total T ratio = 8 x dose so Total T averages 3200. @750mg a week I down regulate at a higher rate and Total T on average is 4 - 5 x dose....so 750mg is usually between 3000 - 3750. 400 Test a week for me is much less down regulation and IMO that's where the undesirable sides kick in. When I last ran 1g a week of Test I looked like a fucking chipmunk which in a bulk blast is an acceptable side.


      My last bulk was a while back and it's likely I won't bulk again for yrs to come. I've settled at 237 and at my age I don't hold weight the way I did at 25 or 35. I'm much happier 237 with a solid six pack, hard as granite, and vascular asf.

      I don't disagree with ya IO, you're points are all valid, just sharing where I'm at in my journey. I sure asf wish I could run a gram of Test a week and experience the results you do. Gawwd that would be fucking amazing. That's paradise!
      What test dose do you recomend for a cutting cycle without all that water retention? Is 200/week acceptable? Like you mentioned, I really try to minimize sides....


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      For me the more simple the better. Test base, cruise at 250. When I blast its at 500. Not huge but I am super sensitive to e2. Low dose AI. I do orals 2-3x a yr, usually just var with Test. Dabble in mast e lately but didn’t work out. 100% a Proviron lover 50mg everyday with Test.


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      500 mg cyp week- cruise 250 wk
      76.5 mg para every 5 days-cruise 76.5 week
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      Quote Originally Posted by bigpapapumpaf View Post
      500 mg cyp week- cruise 250 wk
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      I haven't tried any form of tren since converting the pellets, the mental sides were more that I was willing to endure. I have read where people swear para has less sides?

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      Quote Originally Posted by bdad View Post
      I haven't tried any form of tren since converting the pellets, the mental sides were more that I was willing to endure. I have read where people swear para has less sides?
      Running para... Week 4 at 200/wk ... No sides other than I get a little thermal from time to time... Seeing great recomp already.

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      Quote Originally Posted by bdad View Post
      I haven't tried any form of tren since converting the pellets, the mental sides were more that I was willing to endure. I have read where people swear para has less sides?
      Para/hex seem to be better tolerated by everyone. I think its the timing of the half life and the fact that much lower doses give better results.

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      Quote Originally Posted by bigpapapumpaf View Post
      Para/hex seem to be better tolerated by everyone. I think its the timing of the half life and the fact that much lower doses give better results.

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      Totally Agree!! Max Favorite all time compound! Test and Deca too! Lol

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      Quote Originally Posted by maxmuscle1 View Post
      Totally Agree!! Max Favorite all time compound! Test and Deca too! Lol

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      What do you run hex at if you don’t mind me asking? I have a few bottles left over from a prior cycle I may incorporate into a future blast.

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