Thread: Over the hill cycles

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Originally Posted by jolter604

Yes i vould do 100 6 years ago now 40mg the feel sun burn

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Which ester you prefer, I read hex has lower sides. Hearing this actually made me want to give that a shot.

I've read that Hex has less sides than Enanthate/Ace

I've read that NPP has less sides than Deca

IMO what's most important is to figure out why guys claim to experience less sides on different esters. What we do know is Tren base, Tren Ace, Tren E & Tren Hex all have the exact same hormone. We also know that when a carbon chain ester is attached a cleave off of the ester and a gradual release of the hormone occurs. This is a big factor however what I believe to be the biggest factor is the dosing schedule & how this varies when users choose the different esters. Let's look at the different ester/hormone weights.

100mg Trenbolone Acetate = 87mg Trenbolone

100mg Trenbolone Enanthate = 70mg Trenbolone

100mg Trenbolone Hexahydrobenzylcarbonate = 70mg Trenbolone

Users will run 150 - 200mg a week of Hex so knowing the above, how much hormone is in Hex, this brings up yet another point.

2cc or 150mg of Hex contains 105mg of hormone.
2cc of E or 400mg = 280mg of hormone.

So what I've seen over the yrs is lower volume more frequent injections usually = less sides.

We all know that lower doses keep us in the good spectrum of the dose response curve and we experience less diminishing returns.

Guess I can sum it up by stating the different esters are far from the only factor that predicates sides. Usually guys who run Deca pin less frequently than on NPP. Infrequent high mg doses IMO will yield more undesirable sides. Also users who run Deca over NPP usually run it on a bulk so their diet & training are much different too.

I've also read guys state that "its all the same hormone so the different esters do not play a role in sides." I don't agree it's that simple.