Thread: PHARMA GRADE OR UG?

I say both can be equally as good if you have legit products .

I just spend the money and order the Pharm grade shit. I realize there are some great sources out there for UG AI's and Serms. I just like to know exactly what I am putting in my body due to the fact I am very Gyno prone. Plus I hate using the liquid shit with the stuff floating around in it, how can I possibly be getting an accurate dosage...? Just my opinion brothers, I'm not gambling in this department anymore LOL.

Imo anything I get that's not from a doctor or pharmacy I consider underground, labels are easy to make it's hard to tell what's underground and what looks like pharma could just be the same stuff with a label iv had stuff that looked super legit and turned out to be literally nothing except oil it's all about what actually works I could give a shit about labels or pharma or underground

Originally Posted by Herc

I just spend the money and order the Pharm grade shit. I realize there are some great sources out there for UG AI's and Serms. I just like to know exactly what I am putting in my body due to the fact I am very Gyno prone. Plus I hate using the liquid shit with the stuff floating around in it, how can I possibly be getting an accurate dosage...? Just my opinion brothers, I'm not gambling in this department anymore LOL.

I have wondered the same about liquid suspension, but I just shake up the bottle before dosing and everything has come out pretty damn well in my experience. Hopefully someone can actually shed a little light on how that allows for even dosing.

Originally Posted by masteratarms

Imo anything I get that's not from a doctor or pharmacy I consider underground, labels are easy to make it's hard to tell what's underground and what looks like pharma could just be the same stuff with a label iv had stuff that looked super legit and turned out to be literally nothing except oil it's all about what actually works I could give a shit about labels or pharma or underground

I agree here. I don't believe I've ever had pharma unless I received it prescription. And I can't honestly say I've never been prescribed anything used in the BB world other than accutane.

Originally Posted by enrod

I have wondered the same about liquid suspension, but I just shake up the bottle before dosing and everything has come out pretty damn well in my experience. Hopefully someone can actually shed a little light on how that allows for even dosing.



I agree here. I don't believe I've ever had pharma unless I received it prescription. And I can't honestly say I've never been prescribed anything used in the BB world other than accutane.

i have had stuff from a pharmacy just because I knew a guy who worked at a pharmacy and I will tell you that there is a huge difference between that and underground I got massive off of 250 mg a week it's just something you can tell and anybody who's actually had pharma grade stuff knows what I'm saying ha ppl think ifbb pros are taking stupid amounts of stuff but in reality taking 500mg of actual pharma grade stuff and real hgh can get you stage ready

Originally Posted by Dtsepy

I agree. I have had script for test and winstrol and let me tell you 50 mgs prop and 50 mgs winstrol ed was serious. Especially the winstrol. Thats all I needed and thats all i could really handle I had to go to eod because i was getting bloody noses.

damn brother I had some serious sides but not that lol I took cyp and androgel I didn't like the androgel but I took just the cyp and gained probably 20 pounds in a month and then I mixed it with underground and blew up, how did u like winstrol brother? I never tried it I'm a tren guy but I'm thinking about it lately

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

I agree. I have had script for test and winstrol and let me tell you 50 mgs prop and 50 mgs winstrol ed was serious. Especially the winstrol. Thats all I needed and thats all i could really handle I had to go to eod because i was getting bloody noses.

Which does lead us to beleive that most stuff would have to be underdosed... I mean Test 250 is Test 250... SO.. if one was so potent you had to back off less Frequently. Then There is Really No other explanation than ALOT of the Stuff we are used to Is Truly In fact Underdosed.. And i Personally have seen variances from brand to brand and time to time over the years. Like someone said PharmacyRx you know what you are getting exact doses for sure.. Otherwise honeslty i believe it is and can be a crap shoot with a new UGL and For yhe Mostpart if i was going wiyh a new UGL without trying.. The dosage on Label is Just a Total ESTIMATE in my opinion and what we Hope to be putting in.. TOO MANY VARIABLES.. Unless you know and Trust your Source..

Originally Posted by masteratarms

i have had stuff from a pharmacy just because I knew a guy who worked at a pharmacy and I will tell you that there is a huge difference between that and underground I got massive off of 250 mg a week it's just something you can tell and anybody who's actually had pharma grade stuff knows what I'm saying ha ppl think ifbb pros are taking stupid amounts of stuff but in reality taking 500mg of actual pharma grade stuff and real hgh can get you stage ready

I've heard several guys talk about this on youtube, and to be honest I just don't believe it. I know test cyp is pharma grade available in the US under Watson (I forget who bought Watson but I believe they were recently acquired this year). However, how is it that pharma grade is so much more, 'potent' than UGL? The only thing pharma guarantees is accurate dosing (250mg/ML is actually equal to 250mg/ML) and bacteria free. Some spec tests on UGLs come back with higher potency than what is placed on the label. Scientifically, I just can't see how there would be a significant or noticeable difference unless your UGL was underdosed.

Originally Posted by enrod

I've heard several guys talk about this on youtube, and to be honest I just don't believe it. I know test cyp is pharma grade available in the US under Watson (I forget who bought Watson but I believe they were recently acquired this year). However, how is it that pharma grade is so much more, 'potent' than UGL? The only thing pharma guarantees is accurate dosing (250mg/ML is actually equal to 250mg/ML) and bacteria free. Some spec tests on UGLs come back with higher potency than what is placed on the label. Scientifically, I just can't see how there would be a significant or noticeable difference unless your UGL was underdosed.

i think it has to do with the raws and I think it's on a level past my understanding and what I mean by that is I think there are raws that will come out the same dose but pharma is higher quality it's like McDonald's beef is still beef with the same amount of protein but if u eat grass fed organic you will feel better and get betters gains even tho the macro content is the same i don't think it's a dose issue more so of a quality of raw issue