Thread: PHARMA GRADE OR UG?

I want to hear what some of my brothers opinions are on pharma grade AI's and SERM's vs. UG. So far all I have used is UG and have been plagued with some gyno. Not real bad and not noticeable to the average person. (slight puffiness of nips and I have masses under both of them). My pec's are huge anyways so it's hard to tell. Now, back to my question....If I had been using Pharma grade AI's and SERM's up to this point, would I have had a different outcome? I finally ordered some Pharma grade shit and am going to give it a go to see if it is any better than what I have already tried. What are your experiences?

I hate under ground shit I always seem to get fake shit now that's to great white peps and pp peps I got gyno cause there letros suck dick I will say digitals adex helped

I've never used pharma.. I don't understand why so many UGL's are giving bunk SERM's and AI's.. the powder is really easy to get and frankly quite fucking cheap. Maybe I just know the right people, though.

Thanks for the responses. I don't know that they are bunk for sure (maybe just severely under dosed), that is why I wanted other people's opinions. Just want to hear experiences with UG vs. Pharma (AI's and SERM's) and what the people of this board prefer to run. I am not talking about AAS, the UG gear has been good.

Originally Posted by Herc

Thanks for the responses. I don't know that they are bunk for sure (maybe just severely under dosed), that is why I wanted other people's opinions. Just want to hear experiences with UG vs. Pharma (AI's and SERM's) and what the people of this board prefer to run. I am not talking about AAS, the UG gear has been good.

Depending on the filler it should be over dosed.. Most of the common fillers are actually more dense, so 25mg of filler could be 50mg of chemical.

The math is very simple to calculate the amount of filler vs chemical.. Although if you assumed instead of knowing what to do, It would come out drastically different than you'd expect. If you're noticing a difference its got to be quality, I just don't know how they could underdose it unless they're using some kind of unorthodox filler.. Its probably the same reason most sources have PIP to sensitive folk.. Its quality of raws, perhaps. I can't imagine most people are intentionally under dosing.

Originally Posted by Khem

Depending on the filler it should be over dosed.. Most of the common fillers are actually more dense, so 25mg of filler could be 50mg of chemical.

The math is very simple to calculate the amount of filler vs chemical.. Although if you assumed instead of knowing what to do, It would come out drastically different than you'd expect. If you're noticing a difference its got to be quality, I just don't know how they could underdose it unless they're using some kind of unorthodox filler.. Its probably the same reason most sources have PIP to sensitive folk.. Its quality of raws, perhaps. I can't imagine most people are intentionally under dosing.

Under dosing is like stepping on coke, more money. That the reason I have one source I use now.

Originally Posted by bdad

Under dosing is like stepping on coke, more money. That the reason I have one source I use now.

With how cheap raws are It makes no sense to underdose, I think good sources actually overdose slightly. I know I would if I was a source, to make up for loss and make sure if its supposed to have 250mg/ml it has 250-275mg/ml as that's good business and will keep your customers running back to you! I am not gyno prone even though I got slight lumps when I was teen but have used both now and honestly I cnat say I notice a difference....

More than price to me is convenience Herc! I can get online with CC and have AI serm or caber delivered in a fe2w days tops....pharm grade state side is pricey I suppose and international is a wait. That's my opinion, if there was a good domestic source for legit pharma stuff at reasonable prices id be all over it

Are you talking AIs from sources or from RC sites. I think because they're suspended in solution it can somehow fuck with the compound, although it's purely anecdotal from my experience with Letro/nolva from Extreme peptides

Herc, I think the only real difference is guaranteed potency. When using UGL, they may actually be close to the pharma grade standards. It's more of a dice roll with UGL when it comes to potency vs. pharma. I don't think you would notice a big difference of 94% potency vs. 99% imo. It's right in the definition of pharmaceutical grade; "The product must be in excess of ninety-nine percent purity with no binders, fillers, dyes or unknown substances". My experience with UGL nolva has been great personally, I'm more afraid of these research chem serms.