Thread: PHARMA GRADE OR UG?

I want to hear what some of my brothers opinions are on pharma grade AI's and SERM's vs. UG. So far all I have used is UG and have been plagued with some gyno. Not real bad and not noticeable to the average person. (slight puffiness of nips and I have masses under both of them). My pec's are huge anyways so it's hard to tell. Now, back to my question....If I had been using Pharma grade AI's and SERM's up to this point, would I have had a different outcome? I finally ordered some Pharma grade shit and am going to give it a go to see if it is any better than what I have already tried. What are your experiences?

I hate under ground shit I always seem to get fake shit now that's to great white peps and pp peps I got gyno cause there letros suck dick I will say digitals adex helped

I've never used pharma.. I don't understand why so many UGL's are giving bunk SERM's and AI's.. the powder is really easy to get and frankly quite fucking cheap. Maybe I just know the right people, though.

Thanks for the responses. I don't know that they are bunk for sure (maybe just severely under dosed), that is why I wanted other people's opinions. Just want to hear experiences with UG vs. Pharma (AI's and SERM's) and what the people of this board prefer to run. I am not talking about AAS, the UG gear has been good.

Herc, I think the only real difference is guaranteed potency. When using UGL, they may actually be close to the pharma grade standards. It's more of a dice roll with UGL when it comes to potency vs. pharma. I don't think you would notice a big difference of 94% potency vs. 99% imo. It's right in the definition of pharmaceutical grade; "The product must be in excess of ninety-nine percent purity with no binders, fillers, dyes or unknown substances". My experience with UGL nolva has been great personally, I'm more afraid of these research chem serms.

Herc I was taking those drops I bought at the beginning of oct, early last week I started getting puffy sore nips, started taking the gp adex and it was gone in a couple days. So I'm definitely staying with the gp AI's

Originally Posted by Herc

Thanks for the responses. I don't know that they are bunk for sure (maybe just severely under dosed), that is why I wanted other people's opinions. Just want to hear experiences with UG vs. Pharma (AI's and SERM's) and what the people of this board prefer to run. I am not talking about AAS, the UG gear has been good.

Depending on the filler it should be over dosed.. Most of the common fillers are actually more dense, so 25mg of filler could be 50mg of chemical.

The math is very simple to calculate the amount of filler vs chemical.. Although if you assumed instead of knowing what to do, It would come out drastically different than you'd expect. If you're noticing a difference its got to be quality, I just don't know how they could underdose it unless they're using some kind of unorthodox filler.. Its probably the same reason most sources have PIP to sensitive folk.. Its quality of raws, perhaps. I can't imagine most people are intentionally under dosing.

Is the only reason most of you, with the exception of darklord, prefer UG AI's and SERM's due to the price? If the price was not a factor, would you still be using UG AI's and SERM's instead of Pharm grade? Are you guys (the ones using UG stuff) sure that it is working, have you gotten blood work while taking it? Or are you guys just not "gyno prone" and really didn't need anything to begin with? Not trying to be the devil's advocate here brothers, just trying to figure out everyone's angle.

Originally Posted by Herc

Is the only reason most of you, with the exception of darklord, prefer UG AI's and SERM's due to the price? If the price was not a factor, would you still be using UG AI's and SERM's instead of Pharm grade? Are you guys (the ones using UG stuff) sure that it is working, have you gotten blood work while taking it? Or are you guys just not "gyno prone" and really didn't need anything to begin with? Not trying to be the devil's advocate here brothers, just trying to figure out everyone's angle.

I have only ever kept AI's on hand, never had to use for even bloat.. SERM's I am fairly certain were real because I get headaches from them. No confirmation. I would prefer Pharm if I can't trust my source for UGL stuff. I prefer altogether that I just get it myself because I know the quality of raws.