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      Great advice here. Just know Clomid might make you a little emotional.
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      Quote Originally Posted by noarch View Post
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      My second question is regarding hCG. I'm not running it through the course of my cycle. Does it make sense to add it prior to the end of my cycle to get my nutz up and running in advance of starting the Nolva? I think I've read about adding it in around the last two weeks of a cycle, and discontinuing before PCT actually starts. That seems to make some sense to me. Yes?

      Thanks BOP....
      What makes the most sense is to run it throughout your cycle. It keeps the leydig cells in the testis functioning. Why allow them to stop functioning and then try to shock them back into doing so by running hcg at the end of your cycle when you could maintain function throughout? You already do that by front loading your serms.
      Have you already started your cycle? If yes how far in are you?

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      Quote Originally Posted by tyga View Post
      believe nolva has very little effect on LH/FSH but does the best with binding to tissue in the breast. Clomid heavily stimulates LH/FSH.

      the two together have synergy as kubes said.
      A-ha! That's the answer I've been looking for. I keep hearing that using them both is "better," but haven't dug up why....this clears it up and makes sense to me. The only thing that makes me nervous about the Clomid is the sides, but I guess it's easy enough to drop it if I'm reacting to it the wrong way.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyinkedup View Post
      What makes the most sense is to run it throughout your cycle. It keeps the leydig cells in the testis functioning. Why allow them to stop functioning and then try to shock them back into doing so by running hcg at the end of your cycle when you could maintain function throughout? You already do that by front loading your serms.
      Have you already started your cycle? If yes how far in are you?
      Thanks, Jimmyinkedup....I'm 8 weeks into a 12 week cycle. Didn't run hCG, just because 1) I wanted to keep things simple and 2) I was already nervous about pinning myself to start with in my first cycle! I'm over that now though....so that's why I was thinking to add it in at the end, which I've heard some people do....I think I won't, though. Might try running it throughout Cycle #2 in the spring to see what sort of difference it makes.

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      Brother honestly I would add the hcg in now rather then waiting
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      I would start now and run it up to 3 days before you start your pct

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      Quote Originally Posted by Jimmyinkedup View Post
      I would start now and run it up to 3 days before you start your pct
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      Brother honestly I would add the hcg in now rather then waiting
      Something like 250 icu 2x/week? Up until 3 days before pct includes the two weeks after my last test pin right? In other words... Run the hcg through the two weeks between my last test pin and the start of pct itself right?

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      Quote Originally Posted by kubes View Post
      Yes yes and yes
      Haha. Thanks kubesFirst Cycle PCT help

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      Quote Originally Posted by noarch View Post
      Haha. Thanks kubesFirst Cycle PCT help
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