Thread: Nothing between cycles?

Originally Posted by HavasuGuy

Hi, Tazzzz... Yes, in fact this is exactly the response that I was hoping for! I was concerned that I might have sounded a little jerky/whiney in my post, but--as surprised that I am that you have ten years on me (I wasn't expecting that)--I'm glad that you can sympathize with me on all of this. Your "revised" advice really makes sense--several other guys, in other threads, have made the same point: Since I'm on TRT anyway, it's probably not the best idea for me to just drop everything (including the TRT) cold turkey. I like your "cruise" suggestion. I'm going to revisit this issue with my doctor.

As for the gym, diet, etc., admittedly, I still am learning all of this. But in recent months I've received some excellent schooling from the guys here at BrotherhoodOfPain... Best site ever for this stuff!! I'm going to keep asking questions, listening, reading, and learning... Thanks again!

P.S. Just to clarify: Do you mean that you NEVER take a break from the TRT? My doc likes me to take at least one month off a couple of times per year. And now that I'm doing AAS, my plan is to do this four times per year (break between cycles)... Thoughts?

Never off---thats what a "cruise" is--cruising along between cycles at a low dose. The question I had to ask myself is what real benefits would I gain by being totally off---and the answer was none. Dropping my test to satisfy a dr knowing I will feel like crap physically and mentally just doesn't work for me. If you are getting regular bloods done your dr can continue to monitor everything thats important and you can have peace of mind as well as feeling and looking great. Again, I never come off. Glad your with us HG---there are a lot of great guys here who will help you.

I think I have a different view maybe. So, maybe take it with a grain of salt....

It sounds to me from this and your other posts that your hormones are kind of all over the place? Maybe like your doctor has been unable to solve the low test problem you've been having, and combined with your own self-prescribing (which we all do!) everything might be all out of whack. I know this is probably what you don't want to hear, but if I were in the same situation, I think I'd take a big breath and a big giant step backwards. Do my clomid PCT to come off everything I'm on now properly, and then not do anything for a while. Wait until everything re-sets to a natural level (whatever your natural level is), and start fresh. It will suck for a few months while you wait to level out (especially if "leveled out" for you is low). I kinda think (just thinking out loud) that there might be a benefit in letting your body clear everything out, and using that time to come up with a comprehensive plan for where you want to be, and how to get there. That way, you don't have to worry about BOTH achieving your goals, AND fixing everything that might have gone sideways in the past. Let your body re-set, clear everything out, take a big breath, and start fresh.

Sometimes we all get so many band-aid fixes on things, that we lose track of what the original problem or goal was, and it's easier to just throw it all out and start with a clean slate.

Just a different perspective, for what it's worth. To me, the 3-6 months to take a big step backwards, would be worth the potential gains I could make when I really know how to move forward.

Originally Posted by Tazzzz

Never off---thats what a "cruise" is--cruising along between cycles at a low dose. The question I had to ask myself is what real benefits would I gain by being totally off---and the answer was none. Dropping my test to satisfy a dr knowing I will feel like crap physically and mentally just doesn't work for me. If you are getting regular bloods done your dr can continue to monitor everything thats important and you can have peace of mind as well as feeling and looking great. Again, I never come off. Glad your with us HG---there are a lot of great guys here who will help you.

Thanks... One last question (I think): What do you think about staying on Arimidex "permanently", including during cruise? My body seems to love to aromatize every molecule of Test (natural or exogenous) that enters my bloodstream. Would be nice not to see a spike in estrogen during cruise, which I typically see whenever I'm off Arimidex... Or is it advisable to take a break from this, too?