PCT insomnia?

**Loose Cannon** · 09-01-2015, 01:13 AM

Originally Posted by noarch

There we go...slept like a baby last night! Had no idea that insomnia could be one of Clomid's side effects. Who knew?!

great to hear. i didnt know either.

**gymdog70** · 09-01-2015, 01:52 AM

hey guys, will be doing my pct in about 8 weeks , being first time user , is clomid and nolv ok on its own or is it good to add hcg as well ?

**noarch** · 09-01-2015, 02:26 AM

Originally Posted by gymdog70

hey guys, will be doing my pct in about 8 weeks , being first time user , is clomid and nolv ok on its own or is it good to add hcg as well ?

Tons of info in the stickies, but I've always heard no hcg during pct. hcg on cycle, but end it before starting pct. I'm no expert tho, so dig into the stickies.

**Apex Peptides** · 09-07-2015, 02:05 AM

I wouldn't use HCG during your PCT. The purpose of a PCT is to jumpstart your natural hormone production again, and as HCG is suppressive you would just be doing the opposite of what the PCT was intended for. Hcg during pct is counterproductive as it will suppress lh function. Hcg is much better run at a lower dose during your cycle to maintain testicular function and discontinue once you have started your serms for pct.

Regarding the sleep issues: AAS directly stimulate the CNS. Anything that does so, has the potential to effect ones sleep. Your HPTA is probably trying to reboot/adjust to the various hormonal fluctuations that are expected in PCT. l I'd try some diphenhydramine (Benadryl) or melatonin. However, it sounds like you have it under control now.

Next time, post up your cycle and pct so everyone can helpyou get all set up? It'll be fun!

Good luck bro...keep us posted!

**weavy88** · 10-10-2015, 09:31 PM

honestly i don't think it has anything to do with the serms. Back when i used to cycle off, I would ALWAYS get terrible insomnia for about a month or so after the androgens had cleared my system. I'd be more likely to blame run away cortisol levels and low test levels.

**gymdog70** · 10-11-2015, 09:42 AM

Always excellent advice on this forum

**gymdog70** · 10-12-2015, 01:49 AM

Got it wrong , all good on here

**noarch** · 10-12-2015, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by weavy88

honestly i don't think it has anything to do with the serms. Back when i used to cycle off, I would ALWAYS get terrible insomnia for about a month or so after the androgens had cleared my system. I'd be more likely to blame run away cortisol levels and low test levels.

Could have been that for sure. Switched my Clomid and nolva to mornings, and insomnia was gone within a week. Who knows if it was the meds or just my body adjusting....