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      Why would you run it during your cycle?

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      Quote Originally Posted by houseape View Post
      Can I run clomid during my cycle for 3 weeks and after also?
      I have heard some guys do this at the end of a cycle. But I believe this is in conjunction with tapering test doses down during those 3 weeks.

      The theory behind this is start natural stimulation early, almost competing with the exogenous administration. Some report this improves their recovery.

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      As I recall I had the visual flash effect from it and was pretty melancholy during PCT . Can't remember the dose something like 100 mg daily for 21 days. stuff did what it was supposed to . lol I would have cried my eyes out when they killed Jon Snow .

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      I saw a post from Grimm in this feed saying clomid can cause a stroke. What's the word on that?

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      thanks for the info, very helpful.

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      Sweet thanks for the info bro

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      Great read as always. Thanks pain

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      Quote Originally Posted by PAiN View Post
      CLOMID(Clomiphine Citrate)

      Pharmaceutical Name: Clomiphine Citrate
      Drug Class: Selective Estrogen Receptor Modulator
      Active Life: 5-7 days


      Originally developed as a female fertility aid, clomiphine citrate has been popular among steroid users for quite some time now as a post-cycle therapy compound used to help recover natural testosterone production. The compound works by partially or completely blocking the effects of estrogen in the body. This is due to the fact that it is a synthetic estrogen with both agonist and antagonist properties. With a similar structure to that of tamoxifen citrate, clomiphine citrate blocks the ability of estrogen to bind with receptors in certain tissues, these being located in the hypothalamus and being suprapituitary, although this is a somewhat contentious claim. Tamoxifen citrate is selective to those receptors in the liver, breast, and bone. So in terms of use as a fertility drug in women, clomiphine citrate helps to eliminate the negative feedback of estrogens on the hypothalamic-pituitary-ovarian axis and increases the production of leuteinizing hormone and follicle stimulating hormone. This induces ovulation.

      Therefore if these results can be translated to strength athletes and bodybuilders, this ability to raise the levels of leuteinizing hormone and follicle stimulating hormone should be quite impressive. An increase in these hormones will result in an increase in testosterone production in users. This of course is something that is desperately desired when coming off of anabolic steroids. If testosterone levels can be raised quickly after a cycle a user is much more likely to maintain more of his gains than if he suffered through a crash in testosterone levels and his natural production came back slowly, all the while having to combat the increased levels of estrogen and cortisol.

      While it is true that clomiphine citrate has many "anti-estrogen" properties, there are a multitude of better options. It's is relatively weak in comparison to tamoxifen citrate and the anti-aromatase compounds that are available are much more potent in terms of controlling and/or eliminating estrogenic side effects that are likely to develop. The primary duty of clomiphine citrate should be left to post-cycle therapy.


      Use/Dosing

      Of course due to the fact that there is little research to do with the use of clomiphine citrate as it relates to steroid users, much of what we know about the dosing of it has been from anecdotal reports. For the most part users will maintain doses of the drug between 25mgs to 150mgs per day on a consistent basis. Often times users will "frontload" the compound using doses of between 200-300mgs on the first day of their post-cycle therapy and then reduce the subsequent doses. However the side effects associated with large doses of the compound may hinder some individuals' abilities to do this.

      Some users also advocate tapering the dose of clomiphine citrate during the last few weeks of administration. However this is more a practice that is based upon theory rather than solid medical evidence of it's productivity.

      In terms of dosing length it seems that at least 3 weeks of clomiphine citrate therapy is recommended by users. Of course each has their own preferences along with individual recovery schedules. Also the types of compounds used and the duration of a cycle will of course influence the time it takes for a user to recover and the need for a lengthy post-cycle therapy. Due to the lack of serious side effects associated with the drug, as well as the fact that there is no risk of toxicity with the clomiphine citrate, users are able to use the compound for months on end with seemingly no significant negative consequences.


      Risks/Side Effects

      Despite these rather inconvenient side effects, for the most part clomiphine citrate can be run for extended periods of time with no worries of serious negative consequences. Potentially things such as hot flashes, nausea, dizziness, and headaches may occur but anecdotally users report that these symptoms are quite rare. However emotional side effects along with vision problems are frequently reported with use of this drug. Visual tracers or blurry vision are often reported by users, even some who use extremely low doses of the compound. These are often reported to become more pronounced at night. However if this symptom becomes unbearable, it quickly dissipates after administration of the compound is ceased.

      In terms of the emotional side effects associated with clomiphine citrate, some users complain that they become depressed, irritable or more emotional in general when using the drug. This can primarily be explained by way of clomiphine citrate being a synthetic estrogen. By introducing a type of estrogen into a user's system some effects should be expected. Coupled with the fact that the natural testosterone production of the user is already suppressed this obviously could lead to some difficulties. Of course some users find these effects much more pronounced than others, with many finding clomiphine intolerable while others have little to no side effects.

      Another possible effect of use of the compound is increased acne. This is a direct result in the shifting hormonal balance that a user would be experiencing while coming off of anabolic steroids and the introduction of clomiphine citrate to their system. An increase in production of seminal fluid may also be experienced by some users and therefore the volume of ejaculate may well noticeably increase as well.
      clomid is my favorites pct

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