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What cycle did you run mate? Did you get your blood checked?
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Originally Posted by
bobhead
Shit your already in pct, probably hold on the hcg. How much do you normally run on cycle?
Are your testicles atrophied?
at the most i usually run 500-800mg of test and tren always changing doses and esters. ran some eq, some anavar as well. yea balls are shrunk for sure.
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I see, I suspect you needed to increase your hcg dosage on cycle.
Perhaps in this situation, you could blast a single dose of hcg during your PCT.
I only use HCG when I notice some atrophy occurring. HCG will desensitize your leydig cell.
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Hey, the longer you stay on, the harder it is to re-cover. About 1 yr before I was diagnosed with low T, I ran a 25 wk test cycle. I jst think it gets harder and harder for the body to produce again, when its been turned off for so long. Same thing happened with my thyroid. There are studys that say the thyroid is very resilient. It wasn't really in my case, After couple years using T3 on and off long periods, I had to start Dr. Rx'd hormone replacement.
Go get tested in a month, after u try to get yourself producing again. Also if u came off because of wanting kids(IDK just guessing), I had a healthy, strong as an ox baby boy while on TRT. Got my girl preggers within first month of trying. So being on TRT doesn't mean u cant get girl pregnant. I was on tren to, wasn't done w my cycle and figured I had the time to finish as she had just stopped birth control. Hang in there
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Originally Posted by
bobhead
I see, I suspect you needed to increase your hcg dosage on cycle.
Perhaps in this situation, you could blast a single dose of hcg during your PCT.
I only use HCG when I notice some atrophy occurring. HCG will desensitize your leydig cell.
I thought hcg desensitizing leydig cells came from frequently administered high doses of hcg. So utilizing higher doses, if he was already running 250-500iu's 2-3x a week, would be counter productive? I guess it would depend on how much he was running to begin with.
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Also, Kubes has referenced the "power pct protocol" in a few other pct threads. I believe its from William llewellyn's books. Could be worth looking into.
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Hey bro. Give the testicles a blast with HCG. Your leydig cells are probably still dormant and don't wanna wake up. I saw a urologist when I came off to have kids and we Re-blasted with HCG after starting clomid therapy because I wasn't responding. After HCG test levels came up to 900 on 50mg clomid a day. But bad news...I still felt like shit with those levels because we are use to being triple that....when I stopped the clomid my levels went back to 200 so blast and cruise for me now. My advice is throw more HCG in the mix and take 50mg clomid ED for as long as you want until you want to go back on. If you want to come off for good get bloods after 4 weeks of clomid and see where you are. Then stop everything and get bloods another 4 weeks after all drugs have stopped. Good luck!!
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Hey brother,
I've had similar experiences for a week or so coming off which is kinda weird because we both are young and it sounds like your not running extreme amounts of gear. Here is my 02 cents and a little "out of the box" type thinking, but nonetheless I felt like it really helped on my last cycle recovery. Aside from the recovery protocols the brothers gave you, I strongly encourage you to revisit your diet and training. I just put this out there because I personally believe in cases like this it would be best to eat and train a lil different. I really upped my fats with avocados and other healthy fats sources and even ate a little shitty during my PCT. I went back to the basic lifts and lifted heavy, low reps with lots of days off. Maybe only hit the gym 2-3 times a week. Personally, I was soley focused on recovery and I felt that this was very helpful. Now, I felt like this really made a difference for me, but it might be more severe in your case, but i still think diet and training have a strong correlation with optimal recovery and should be mentioned. Wish you luck brother!
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Originally Posted by
bobhead
I see, I suspect you needed to increase your hcg dosage on cycle.
Perhaps in this situation, you could blast a single dose of hcg during your PCT.
I only use HCG when I notice some atrophy occurring. HCG will desensitize your leydig cell.
how much of a single dose?
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Originally Posted by
sledgehammer
Hey, the longer you stay on, the harder it is to re-cover. About 1 yr before I was diagnosed with low T, I ran a 25 wk test cycle. I jst think it gets harder and harder for the body to produce again, when its been turned off for so long. Same thing happened with my thyroid. There are studys that say the thyroid is very resilient. It wasn't really in my case, After couple years using T3 on and off long periods, I had to start Dr. Rx'd hormone replacement.
Go get tested in a month, after u try to get yourself producing again. Also if u came off because of wanting kids(IDK just guessing), I had a healthy, strong as an ox baby boy while on TRT. Got my girl preggers within first month of trying. So being on TRT doesn't mean u cant get girl pregnant. I was on tren to, wasn't done w my cycle and figured I had the time to finish as she had just stopped birth control. Hang in there
thats what ive always heard about having kids on too, but after it wasnt working for a while i got my sperm count tested and it was low. doubt it was a coincidence.
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