Thread: I Feel Miserable

Cycled off a few weeks ago for personal reasons. Started PCT a little late because I was waiting on an overseas package. I'm 25 and run HCG on cycle, not in PCT. I've had great recovery's using Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. This is probably the 3rd time coming off in about 2 years. But this time I'm having issues. I'm not recovering like I did. I can feel my Test Levels practically at 0. Dick is non existent. I feel miserable. Do you think a brief, drastic HCG blast will give me a little kick??? Any ideas???

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

Cycled off a few weeks ago for personal reasons. Started PCT a little late because I was waiting on an overseas package. I'm 25 and run HCG on cycle, not in PCT. I've had great recovery's using Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. This is probably the 3rd time coming off in about 2 years. But this time I'm having issues. I'm not recovering like I did. I can feel my Test Levels practically at 0. Dick is non existent. I feel miserable. Do you think a brief, drastic HCG blast will give me a little kick??? Any ideas???

Not sure why your levels would be that low running HCG on cycle. How late did you start? Might have to give it a bit more time. See if the clomid kicks in.

Not from personal experience but experience of friends/research... Recovery will be harder and harder each time... Making trt practically a must... Eventually....Wish u the best of luck brother!

Originally Posted by Radman69

Not from personal experience but experience of friends/research... Recovery will be harder and harder each time... Making trt practically a must... Eventually....Wish u the best of luck brother!

I'm beginning to fear that becoming a reality for me in the future, the loss of gains after a cycle are just so disheartening it really fucks with my head.

I would increase the hcg last 2weeks just before pct.

Testies might need an extra kick.

Originally Posted by Electromass

Not sure why your levels would be that low running HCG on cycle. How late did you start? Might have to give it a bit more time. See if the clomid kicks in.

im hoping it kicks in....i started probably about 10 days late?

Originally Posted by bobhead

Testies might need an extra kick.

youd try more hcg right now even tho i already started pct?

Originally Posted by Loose Cannon

youd try more hcg right now even tho i already started pct?

I have found hcg works best for me once my test levels crash. About the 15 or 16 days after my last shot if im running 500-750mg/wk of test cyp. I then generally do 2500iu/week for 2 weeks along side of your typical clomid/nolva protocol. If you have had blood work to establish your baseline test levels, for example off cycle your test is 400ng/dl, you would want to have dropped below that for the hcg to effectively stimulate leydig cells. Not saying this is the only method, but what I have found works for me. My blood tests have shown recovering test levels after 4 weeks of pct (generally 6-7 weeks post cycle) for my last two cycles. Unfortunately, I didn't get bloods during my first runs when I did not utilize hcg...live and learn! I haven't utilized hcg on cycle, outside of preventing atrophy im not convinced it helps with recovery with the on cycle method.... Hope you recover quick man!