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I Feel Miserable
Cycled off a few weeks ago for personal reasons. Started PCT a little late because I was waiting on an overseas package. I'm 25 and run HCG on cycle, not in PCT. I've had great recovery's using Clomid 100/50/50/50 and Nolva 40/40/20/20. This is probably the 3rd time coming off in about 2 years. But this time I'm having issues. I'm not recovering like I did. I can feel my Test Levels practically at 0. Dick is non existent. I feel miserable. Do you think a brief, drastic HCG blast will give me a little kick??? Any ideas???
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Originally Posted by
Loose Cannon
Cycled off a few weeks ago for personal reasons. Started PCT a little late because I was waiting on an overseas package. I'm 25 and run HCG on cycle, not in PCT. I've had great recovery's using Clomid
100/50/50/50 and Nolva
40/40/20/20. This is probably the 3rd time coming off in about 2 years. But this time I'm having issues. I'm not recovering like I did. I can feel my Test Levels practically at 0. Dick is non existent. I feel miserable. Do you think a brief, drastic HCG blast will give me a little kick??? Any ideas???
Not sure why your levels would be that low running HCG on cycle. How late did you start? Might have to give it a bit more time. See if the clomid kicks in.
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Not from personal experience but experience of friends/research... Recovery will be harder and harder each time... Making trt practically a must... Eventually....Wish u the best of luck brother!
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Originally Posted by
Radman69
Not from personal experience but experience of friends/research... Recovery will be harder and harder each time... Making trt practically a must... Eventually....Wish u the best of luck brother!
I'm beginning to fear that becoming a reality for me in the future, the loss of gains after a cycle are just so disheartening it really fucks with my head.
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I would increase the hcg last 2weeks just before pct.
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Testies might need an extra kick.
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Originally Posted by
Electromass
Not sure why your levels would be that low running HCG on cycle. How late did you start? Might have to give it a bit more time. See if the clomid kicks in.
im hoping it kicks in....i started probably about 10 days late?
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Originally Posted by
bobhead
Testies might need an extra kick.
youd try more hcg right now even tho i already started pct?
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Originally Posted by
Loose Cannon
youd try more hcg right now even tho i already started pct?
I have found hcg works best for me once my test levels crash. About the 15 or 16 days after my last shot if im running 500-750mg/wk of test cyp. I then generally do 2500iu/week for 2 weeks along side of your typical clomid/nolva protocol. If you have had blood work to establish your baseline test levels, for example off cycle your test is 400ng/dl, you would want to have dropped below that for the hcg to effectively stimulate leydig cells. Not saying this is the only method, but what I have found works for me. My blood tests have shown recovering test levels after 4 weeks of pct (generally 6-7 weeks post cycle) for my last two cycles. Unfortunately, I didn't get bloods during my first runs when I did not utilize hcg...live and learn! I haven't utilized hcg on cycle, outside of preventing atrophy im not convinced it helps with recovery with the on cycle method.... Hope you recover quick man!
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Shit your already in pct, probably hold on the hcg. How much do you normally run on cycle?
Are your testicles atrophied?
Last edited by bobhead; 11-17-2016 at 04:57 AM.
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