Thread: HCG needed for TRT patients?

Originally Posted by babybull34

This is solid advice to combat the estro-sides. Personally, I am of the camp that HCG is more of a aesthetic issue than a functional issue on TRT. Long term use of HCG will cause a de-sensitization to FH and LSH, which is counterproductive. Additionally, HCG will increase estro-sides.

Now, I am not saying don't use HCG. It has it's place, even on TRT, but I do not believe it should be used ongoing on a weekly basis. I am sure that many others will disagree. However, if it was a requirement for proper TRT Endo's would be prescribing it with the Test. This is actually incredibly rare. Most Endo's won't even talk about.

You are right to an extent about desensitization of HCG,run NAC with it and it keeps your body from desensitizing. NAC actually keeps that from happening. I myself like the HCG on TRT dose ever since started using HCG free and total test is up and boys are same but size (normal) but a lot more sensitive. HCG I don't get from my Dr he won't write it but did my research to give a try and really am liking so for Myself I prefer with HCG. But I will say only been using it for about 8 months now so down the road idk yet. Know guys who use and don't use it's really how you prefer. There are studies of why HCG should be a part of a correct HRT, just don't know how to post.

Originally Posted by Zeus-Sr

I haven’t heard that NAC keeps your from desensitizing. Interesting. NAC is great for a variety of reasons - it increases glutathione levels and high glutathione keeps your organs young and toxin free.

At 52 and having two young adult children and not wanting any more kids - I probably do not need to take HCG but for me it makes me feel better from a male ego standpoint that my testicles are not the size of peas and that if somehow there is no way to get testosterone in this world because of a massive shortage or ban that I might have a better chance at getting my testicles working and not losing all my muscle. I consider myself a pretty intelligent person but I have these very irrational fears.

Yeah I've read the NAC and HCG from different places but not Science places or proven studies. I really should have put that in my post earlier. But yes NAC for the toxins and other is main reasons I take NAC. HCG I'm not saying it's 100% or positive on anything just it is working on me with my HRT. My blood work has shown that to me so far. Not saying it will last for sure, but for now I'm content with HCG for Myself and hey it can't just be me it's worth a shot if anything.

Originally Posted by Zeus-Sr

... and that if somehow there is no way to get testosterone in this world because of a massive shortage or ban that I might have a better chance at getting my testicles working and not losing all of the muscles.

Are there any anecdotes of people recovering test or running a PCT after blasting/cruising for say 12 months whilst using maybe 500 IU of HCG a week?

Id love to know if thats a viable solution to having to come off onto PCT.

I'd blast and cruise in a heartbeat but for the fear of one day not being able to get gear or travelling or economic recession or whatever.


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Originally Posted by Bullseye Forever

I know I’ve been through 3 Endos and none of them will even talk about hcg at all!!


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I directly asked mine and he stopped the convo cold saying it was an off-script use and it was for women. Discussion was over.

Originally Posted by babybull34

I directly asked mine and he stopped the convo cold saying it was an off-script use and it was for women. Discussion was over.

Completely right.

Originally Posted by babybull34

This is solid advice to combat the estro-sides. Personally, I am of the camp that HCG is more of a aesthetic issue than a functional issue on TRT. Long term use of HCG will cause a de-sensitization to FH and LSH, which is counterproductive. Additionally, HCG will increase estro-sides.

Now, I am not saying don't use HCG. It has it's place, even on TRT, but I do not believe it should be used ongoing on a weekly basis. I am sure that many others will disagree. However, if it was a requirement for proper TRT Endo's would be prescribing it with the Test. This is actually incredibly rare. Most Endo's won't even talk about.

Wanted to add your completely right about Drs Endos talking about or even letting you say a word about HCG. Added from my other post. I agree with what you said just have different opinion on using Myself.

Originally Posted by RedWood1

Wanted to add your completely right about Drs Endos talking about or even letting you say a word about HCG. Added from my other post. I agree with what you said just have different opinion on using Myself.

That's what this board is for, brother, sharing experiences, approaches, and opinions. I appreciate you sharing yours.

As far as sharing studies, just copy and paste the address from your browser (the bar at the top that has Website.com....) that will let you share the info. Or select the infowith your mouse, right-click and select copy. Then come to the reply window and right-click and select paste. Either way it makes the info available.

I would be very interested in the addition of NAC minimizing the desensitization. What dosage of NAC do you use, Redwood1?