Thread: HCG needed for TRT patients?

Hey born. Unfortunately I was speaking to how I respond. This is me though, so of course subjective and not universally applicable.

I have gone higher than 500 a week but only during PCT back in the day.

I bloat within hours of taking HCG, man. Water intake, working out, extra cardio all did nothing. It was estro for sure.

I always knew I was estro-sensitive but HCG shows me how much I really am. I have AI's on hand the moment I touch more than 300mg/week of Test.

Unfortunately, I don't think there are ANY conclusive studies on the desensitizing aspect. Hell, I don't think there are many conclusive studies on much of anything we do. Some things which show correlation but not necessarily causation.

Appreciate your add in. I can't see the value to smaller doses either.

I have just accepted TRT and small nuts.....

Originally Posted by babybull34

Hey born. Unfortunately I was speaking to how I respond. This is me though, so of course subjective and not universally applicable.

I have gone higher than 500 a week but only during PCT back in the day.

I bloat within hours of taking HCG, man. Water intake, working out, extra cardio all did nothing. It was estro for sure.

I always knew I was estro-sensitive but HCG shows me how much I really am. I have AI's on hand the moment I touch more than 300mg/week of Test.

Unfortunately, I don't think there are ANY conclusive studies on the desensitizing aspect. Hell, I don't think there are many conclusive studies on much of anything we do. Some things which show correlation but not necessarily causation.

Appreciate your add in. I can't see the value to smaller doses either.

I have just accepted TRT and small nuts.....

I'm not Estrogen sensitive but agree after starting HCG Estrogen did rise some. That's from blood work so know it raises e2 levels. I don't know if it will keep working in the future/long run how it is effecting me now but just have to wait and see kind of thing. Also my nuts only got more sensitive feeling from HCG no size gain from it that is noticeable at least.

Originally Posted by babybull34

Hey born. Unfortunately I was speaking to how I respond. This is me though, so of course subjective and not universally applicable.

I have gone higher than 500 a week but only during PCT back in the day.

I bloat within hours of taking HCG, man. Water intake, working out, extra cardio all did nothing. It was estro for sure.

I always knew I was estro-sensitive but HCG shows me how much I really am. I have AI's on hand the moment I touch more than 300mg/week of Test.

Unfortunately, I don't think there are ANY conclusive studies on the desensitizing aspect. Hell, I don't think there are many conclusive studies on much of anything we do. Some things which show correlation but not necessarily causation.

Appreciate your add in. I can't see the value to smaller doses either.

I have just accepted TRT and small nuts.....

Hell I accepted hcg and small nuts, and a tiny pecker! Lol

I asked about the bloating because I literally bloat every workout. Never been able to figure out why.

Originally Posted by born

Hell I accepted hcg and small nuts, and a tiny pecker! Lol

I asked about the bloating because I literally bloat every workout. Never been able to figure out why.

LOL! You're just getting all swole up, man!

Originally Posted by babybull34

LOL! You're just getting all swole up, man!

Except where it counts lol!

if your on TRT only use hcg when you notice the boys on the smaller side. You will only need to run 1000iu eod for a total of 3 injections that should be enough to give the balls a kick and then do not use it again until you notice the problem again. note take some nolva 20mg ed for about 20 days once you start the hcg as a short raise in E2 will occur with hcg use an AI is not good while running TRT because your E2 will not be that high whilst on TRT so last thing you want is to lower your E2 because healthy levels help with sexual function. Although using Nolva will just protect the nips for the short period that you E2 is up from the hcg use. This is all that is needed.

I find DIM can help control E2 and keep it in range whilst on TRT doses.

An AI & Nolvadex is good to have on hand while blasting, for sure an AI though. I wouldnt blast without an AI.

Lets keep it simple if on cycle or trt
Nuts big and full your good to go.
Nuts the size of pea hit some hcg say 500-1000iu eod for 10days and problem solved. Repeat when problem arises again.

If looking at pct I prefer larger amount of hcg 1500-3000iu over 3 week period every 5 days while esters are clearing then follow up with serms will go along way in helping get back to natural T levels.

Originally Posted by Zeus-Sr

... and that if somehow there is no way to get testosterone in this world because of a massive shortage or ban that I might have a better chance at getting my testicles working and not losing all of the muscles.

Are there any anecdotes of people recovering test or running a PCT after blasting/cruising for say 12 months whilst using maybe 500 IU of HCG a week?

Id love to know if thats a viable solution to having to come off onto PCT.

I'd blast and cruise in a heartbeat but for the fear of one day not being able to get gear or travelling or economic recession or whatever.


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Originally Posted by MrUmpire

I dont think HCG is needed for TRT patients isnt that correct?

Im a TRT patient and im prescribed 250mg a week of Test Cyp

Im about to up that dosage to 500mg a week and add 500mg of Deca and dbol25 every other day.

Since im not worried much about my testies lol they work fine being on TRT... have a 7 month preggers at home.

Im worried about the gyno side of it and make sure that nothing comes about... thinking that nova or clomid the last two weeks of the cycle will be enough?????



EDIT: I also take 1iu of hgh eod which i plan to keep that doasge the same unless otherwise suggested.

Why would you need nova or clomid the last 2 wks of a cycle when returning to a trt dose?