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      Good morning,

      So I am pretty new to the whole AAS scene. I am getting ready to finish a 12 and 8 week cycle of Test C 500 and Deca 300. I ate very well, and trained almost everyday. Could I have ate and trained better, sure; but I did good for my first time. Within these past 7 weeks, I have gained nearly 33 pounds. I look noticeably better than I did before.

      I feel that I expected too much out of this, and thought I was going to look a lot bigger, and am kind of disappointed. I haven't had any sides aside from maybe some back acne. I had my bloods done, and everything seems pretty stable. I have Arimidex and Nolvadex for PCT.

      My concern is, and I was warned that I would get so hooked on the results that I won't want to stop. It's true. I want to know, are there any other compounds that I can throw in as a I start to rid the Test and Deca? Something that doesn't run estrogenic properties? Could I run Tren and Test at a low dose? Should I stop altogether?

      I don't know, just a little confused and would like some advice.
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      Zach
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      You've done well grasshopper and gained 33 lbs. What else do you want? Taper down and off and prepare for your 2nd cycle. Test and tren is certainly a good cycle but probably not what I would recommend for #2. I'd beat the hell out of test and deca first, maybe switch things up to npp and see how it goes. Your 1st is always the best.

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      Quote Originally Posted by bigpapapumpaf View Post
      You've done well grasshopper and gained 33 lbs. What else do you want? Taper down and off and prepare for your 2nd cycle. Test and tren is certainly a good cycle but probably not what I would recommend for #2. I'd beat the hell out of test and deca first, maybe switch things up to npp and see how it goes. Your 1st is always the best.

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      Thanks! As a 23 year old, this has been really exciting for me. I feel so confident. Everyone giving me compliments, being able to lift more in the gym, just feeling better about my morale all around. Do you think running any compound at a low dose would be ok? I wan't to keep these gains, and I was told I will lose almost 55% of them off cycle. I truly care about my body, but I also want to keep my awesome physique. I now want to cut, and I know there are some good cutting agents I could use. Would it be a terrible thing to run Tren/Test at a small dose? Maybe Tren E?

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tributex1 View Post
      Thanks! As a 23 year old, this has been really exciting for me. I feel so confident. Everyone giving me compliments, being able to lift more in the gym, just feeling better about my morale all around. Do you think running any compound at a low dose would be ok? I wan't to keep these gains, and I was told I will lose almost 55% of them off cycle. I truly care about my body, but I also want to keep my awesome physique. I now want to cut, and I know there are some good cutting agents I could use. Would it be a terrible thing to run Tren/Test at a small dose? Maybe Tren E?
      I would say slow down a bit bro...youve gad a good run stay off a while keep working out and eating etc like youve been...give your body a break... personally I think you're a bit Young to be blasting ..none my buisness...just concerned about your endocrine system etc planning on having kids etc...cause this as you can see can become addicting and a lot of guys wont come completely off..i myself am guilty of...however im 40 and done having kid etc..trust me not trying to be a debbie downer...just take it easy your young and well on your way..no need to go crazy and go straight to jammin qts of tren lol...ok now im sounding like a Debbie downer lol...just study take it slow and be safe bro....

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      Well said Perk!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Bigdaddyperk View Post
      I would say slow down a bit bro...youve gad a good run stay off a while keep working out and eating etc like youve been...give your body a break... personally I think you're a bit Young to be blasting ..none my buisness...just concerned about your endocrine system etc planning on having kids etc...cause this as you can see can become addicting and a lot of guys wont come completely off..i myself am guilty of...however im 40 and done having kid etc..trust me not trying to be a debbie downer...just take it easy your young and well on your way..no need to go crazy and go straight to jammin qts of tren lol...ok now im sounding like a Debbie downer lol...just study take it slow and be safe bro....

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      Quote Originally Posted by Tributex1 View Post
      Thanks! As a 23 year old, this has been really exciting for me. I feel so confident. Everyone giving me compliments, being able to lift more in the gym, just feeling better about my morale all around. Do you think running any compound at a low dose would be ok? I wan't to keep these gains, and I was told I will lose almost 55% of them off cycle. I truly care about my body, but I also want to keep my awesome physique. I now want to cut, and I know there are some good cutting agents I could use. Would it be a terrible thing to run Tren/Test at a small dose? Maybe Tren E?
      No cycle off. Its hard to tell how much you might loose. There is no hard and fast methodology to that. Quality gains will stay, bloat will go. As you get older and have more cycles under your belt this will make sense. If you stay on all the time now, your body will all but stop its natural test production and before you know it you will have to have trt doses the rest of your life.

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      Thanks guys. May just extend the cycle by another 4-6 weeks. Will follow up with my DR to ensure my bloods are within a stable position....

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      You are in your prime right now bro. Take a break and recover (you will recover quickly being a young man). Run a solid PCT and keep training hard and you shouldn't lose much. Don't even consider blasting and cruising until you are near a middle aged man.

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      I'm one of the people on here always asking for help and advice like a blind man feeling his way down a street. However, I did my first cycle 10 years ago when I was 40 and it was awesome life changing for me too. I understand your enthusiasm! I was offered jobs, both dealing with my body and those that had nothing to do with my physique, made more friends, my confidence shot through the roof, it was amazing. My problem was I had no game. I didn't know what to do with all that attention and "fame." I was still the self-conscious shy guy even with a build--BTW I only gained about 15 extra pounds but on my small frame it was enough to make me pop everywhere. I went off cycle after about 3-4 months and didn't even know about PCT, but I guess since it was my first time my body didn't really need it? Not sure. I don't recall facing any issues with acne or gyno or low sex drive. It was like the first time I drunk alcohol. I downed an entire bottle of gin without effect. The next time I drunk a beer and threw up all over my mom's bathroom. My second cycle, however, which was a few years later my body went through all that. I think I added tren to my cycle. Originally I used deca and some test, not sure which kind. I had to go on accutane and i used round bandaids to cover my nipples under my shirt cuz I was so embarrassed by my gyno nips. Just don't expect miracles. Enjoy the rush but also don't expect this to solve all your problems or last forever.

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