Thread: Shutdown hard - Blood test results! Need ops from everyone.. :)

Originally Posted by Sqwuidd

damn 73 --low
You prob feel crappy physically

Ok so week 2 PCT and it hasn't restarted production yet (73 is the indicator )

Dont use Proviron its an AAS and will complicate shit

Only nolva on PCT could be a reason also
Usually its always at least Nolva and Clomid (some USE hcg but its not mandatory )

Your goal is to get your body to be producing natural test right?

Use HCG MWF 250ius each time for a 2 weeks (should help jump the system) -week 3 taper the dose down and week 4 same thing (i am assuming you didnt use HCG while on cycle?)

continue the nolva as its going since youve already started it and ran it for 2 weeks ED

shit I would def include Clomid in this also --you have Clomid? 50mg ED for first week then week 2 cut it in half--25mg ED - week 3-- 25 mg EOD or if you can split the tabs into 4's . 12.5 ED

Nolva
Clomid
HCG

Definitely agree with this. Nolva and Clomid have a symmetry when used together that supposedly works better that if each is used by itself. I'll be honest with ya, recovering at 48 y/o is not going to be easy imo. Granted, some guys might be able to accomplish this due to genetics, but unfortunately aging sucks for most of us and will take its toll. Good luck to ya, though.

2Pack

Originally Posted by 2Pack_Sugar

Definitely agree with this. Nolva and Clomid have a symmetry when used together that supposedly works better that if each is used by itself. I'll be honest with ya, recovering at 48 y/o is not going to be easy imo. Granted, some guys might be able to accomplish this due to genetics, but unfortunately aging sucks for most of us and will take its toll. Good luck to ya, though.

2Pack

I've done a cycle at 47 no problem recovering, then jumped back on to this new one. Never did var before, so I threw that in the mix and wondering if that's what really hammered me down tho.

3rd day out of using proviron 50mg a day (25 a day for a few days last week), hcg for the past 3 - nuts are hurting and coming back. I'll probably get a test in a month or two and see where I'm at. After seeing out easy it was with getting bloods by using the private labs, I'm def. doing this from now on! Beginning, middle and after.

Man guys, I'm starting to think that I'm never gonna get my pituitary gland working again. I stopped HCG 2 weeks ago and my free test went from 74 down to 32!!!!!! My fsh is really low and my SHBG is over 83. Obviously it's high due to the lack of free testosterone, so I read that if I start taking nolva or clomid (only have nolva) it should trigger the hypothalamus to signal the pituitary gland to start producting lh/fsh for my boys. They were aching for 2 days, coincidentally right after I got my blood withdrawal for the test. They are still a bit on the smaller side, but definitely not completely tiny like when on cycle. About how long do you think it will take at 40mgs of Nolva to get things to start working? I could order some clomid but at what mg strength? Suprisingly, I haven't felt like I had low testosterone, plenty of energy etc, but the last two days it's been getting worse. I want to inject myself so badly right now to fix it, but I'm trying my best to see what I can do on my own before throwing in the towel and go see someone who specializes in it or what.

Thanks,

Shouldn't the LH and FSH be elevated from the nolva? Bunk Nolva?

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Shouldn't the LH and FSH be elevated from the nolva? Bunk Nolva?

Possibly. I usually don't buy it from blueskypeptide, but I know they get the stuff to you quick and I needed quick at the time. I know it works because at times when I was puffy / itchy nips, it stopped it almost that day. So probably good to go.

I have been thinking about running hcg again except at 250. However, I did run it every other day to every 3 days during cycle and stopped at the end of the cycle. I did run it again when the blood tests came back at 73/74 and I ran hcg for 2 weeks and tapered off, then my bloods came back at 32! Yes this sucks!!! I can barely get a boner to save my life, even with cialis. I'm starting to get desperate but I want to at least wait 2 more weeks and get bloods if I don't see any improvement with the size of my boys ors sexual function hasn't improved yet. Such a strange and weird feeling to have thoughts about sex all day!! The weird thing is that I still have motivation to workout, some days I feel myself dragging but others like yesterday and today, I feel better. Left nut is aching, so I'm hoping it's starting to work again. If I start to think, feel better, and don't have any issues with erections, I'll probably wait two =3 months or 4 before I get bloods again, if not, 2 weeks I'm getting bloods and I'm throwing in the towel if they still come back low! If I see no progress - or if it's still under 150, I'm gonna do a 10cc shot of the strongest test ever! LOL. j/k.

Lesson learned. Get bloods before cycle and do the pct correctly. I just hate clomid but dam, if that works best with both, then I'll try it next time.