Thread: Shutdown hard - Blood test results! Need ops from everyone.. :)

I got my blood test back from yesterday. I'm 2 weeks in at 40mgs Nolvadex ed. After seeing these test results, at least I know what I need to do and wow, just blown away at my low test score, but totally understandable after 4 weeks from my last injection almost.

My cycle was: 50mg anavar a day, 10 weeks, 450 prop, 500 eq 12 weeks. I stopped EQ early on purpose, as I usually have issues afterwards with getting shut down. I started PCT about 1 1/2 weeks after last shot, probably should have started sooner, so no wonder my test is so dam low. I'm probably at the stage where things are starting to turn back on. I feel great otherwise than not being able to stand up. lol.

I also have proviron 25mg on hand and HCG. However, I don't want to run HCG because I believe it will just keep my pituitary gland shutdown, and that's not the point. Should I run proviron along with my Nolva at 25mg a day, or just run it at 50mg a day and drop the Nolva. I've never run proviron and I don't want to accidentally shut myself down on proviron if I'm one of the few cases in which it actually does.

test results:
blood results 10-4.JPG

Thanks brothers.

You are shut down lol. Test and and LH are low. Makes sense but would think after PCT they would come up some. Give it time and see.

Why your e2 so low? Did you overdose on AIs? That’s definitely it helping at all.

Taking Proviron IMO at this stage won’t help, could hurt more.

How old are you?

What was your pct?

How long was pct?

Did you do bloods pre and mid cycle?


I am a part time Proctologist and full time Gynecologist

For pct I run hcg and Clomid. Always works good.

How old are you? 48

What was your pct? Nolva 40mgs first two weeks 20mgs 2nd two weeks - But i'm at the 2nd week mark in PCT, that's why I'm asking for advice. I need to know what to do, stop taking all nolva and don't use proviron? I thought proviron would kickstart the sex hormone lh/fsh that's why I was thinking about doing it. I do have hcg, but that would keep the pituitary gland shut down. believe me i have enough test on hand to get me to 4k. lol, but i don't wanna do that.. so tempting ha.

How long was pct? I'm at the 2 week mark in PCT now as of Today.

Did you do bloods pre and mid cycle? no and no. Next time I definitely will!!!! I never knew about the testing facilities until recently. So I def. will for sure.

Originally Posted by meatneck71

How old are you? 48

What was your pct? Nolva 40mgs first two weeks 20mgs 2nd two weeks - But i'm at the 2nd week mark in PCT, that's why I'm asking for advice. I need to know what to do, stop taking all nolva and don't use proviron? I thought proviron would kickstart the sex hormone lh/fsh that's why I was thinking about doing it. I do have hcg, but that would keep the pituitary gland shut down. believe me i have enough test on hand to get me to 4k. lol, but i don't wanna do that.. so tempting ha.

How long was pct? I'm at the 2 week mark in PCT now as of Today.

Did you do bloods pre and mid cycle? no and no. Next time I definitely will!!!! I never knew about the testing facilities until recently. So I def. will for sure.

No clomid eh.

Well, you can play around with your pct more. But the older you are sometimes the harder to bounce back.

Some will say wait and tweek and others will say TRT at your age.

That’s up to you.




I am a part time Proctologist and full time Gynecologist

Everyone's different brother.
I know some who just use Clomid at high dose to get the balls moving again. Some run hcg through out their cycle To prevent ball shrinkage -

For me I only use hcg and Clomid. Some agree, some disagree but that's what works for my body. The typical hpta restart is Injecting hcg, use it at low dose with Clomid. If you really don't want to use hcg then get your hands on some Clomid. " proviron " I find it to be a waste of money..

Before cycle, I didn't feel like my test was weak. I've only noticed it getting weaker in my mid 40s recently, but it's more in the bedroom than exercise / gymlife. I have stamina like no other. I'm about 10% bf now and even feel great despite the 74 on the chart. I'm wondering if my pituitary gland started up a few days ago from nothing with everything being out of my system and it's slowly creeping up. I've decided to kick my boys in the balls with the HCG and just do it 500 ed until its working and then every other day and cycle off that and get re-tested late December and run cycle in Jan. I may end up on TRT eventually, but I was hoping to put it off as long as possible as long as everything else is working.

You sound like your in good shape. Just taking abit longer to bounce back which is no problem can be easily fix. If I was you man, I'll just run the hcg eod. I think people underestimate " hcg " it's strong stuff well for me anyway. I hear people doing huge doses of it I don't understand why, it also make oestrogen level sky up some times.
How come you wanted go put off the TRT for long as you can?. Apart from that how was your cycle?, how did the prop go? Any plans for next cycle?

damn 73 --low
You prob feel crappy physically

Ok so week 2 PCT and it hasn't restarted production yet (73 is the indicator )

Dont use Proviron its an AAS and will complicate shit

Only nolva on PCT could be a reason also
Usually its always at least Nolva and Clomid (some USE hcg but its not mandatory )

Your goal is to get your body to be producing natural test right?

Use HCG MWF 250ius each time for a 2 weeks (should help jump the system) -week 3 taper the dose down and week 4 same thing (i am assuming you didnt use HCG while on cycle?)

continue the nolva as its going since youve already started it and ran it for 2 weeks ED

shit I would def include Clomid in this also --you have Clomid? 50mg ED for first week then week 2 cut it in half--25mg ED - week 3-- 25 mg EOD or if you can split the tabs into 4's . 12.5 ED

Nolva
Clomid
HCG

Def get some clomid, run it past the nolva at this point. 25mg eod for 6 weeks is prob fine. I wouldnt freak about your numbers at the two week mark. Give it a little time. If theyre still in the toilet in 4 more weeks, then you have a problem.