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are you coming off the gear? If you run the hcg first...theres been great success with one 200mcg shot of triptorellin for getting a longtime steroid user back to operational quickly. Just do not exceed this dosage or you can be chemically castrated. Just ensure your calculations are correct. I read a lot about this stuff, and I have it on hand should I ever stop trt. It basically eliminates the need for a full pct.
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so beast what are you running with the 2for doses wise, I'm in the same boat I believe with needing my count up, I'm on HCG already but not sure how to get around to getting hmg or dosing with it.
Thanks and glad I saw this
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HCG is usually all you need, maybe add some clomid if you want to come off the HCG. HMG is expensive as hell and only necessary if you're not producing sertoli cells. For most men HMG won't be necessary, as HCG will resensitize your leydig cells to produce testosterone and sperm on it's own.
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beast405
I have been using Hcg and hmg now for a couple months along with clomid. My sperm count has went from 2million to 10million. But I’m hoping it’s even higher than 10million now because that semen test was done a month ago. Only thing that’s crazy is my test levels are still low and fsh and lh are still low. But I could care less if those stay low as long as I become fertile.
Hmg will suppress natty lh and fsh levels cause your brain sees it and it’s just part of the negative feedback loop. Hcg mimics lh where hmg mimics both.
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I have had success with this. I know I shared this before but I'll share it again. I used 500 of HCG every other day and I also used 75 of HMG Monday Wednesday and Friday. The two weeks prior to starting this I did 50 mg of clomid every day. I ran this protocol for about three and a half weeks in the next month my wife is pregnant after a year of trying. Unfortunately we lost the pregnancy but I do believe this protocol is effective. It is kind of a poor man's version of Dave palumbo's recommendations
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I would also like to know that I used overseas ************** products. HCG is easy to test however HMG it's not and it's expensive so I was always worried about getting fake stuff so I spent the money on **************
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Geareduprn
I have had success with this. I know I shared this before but I'll share it again. I used 500 of HCG every other day and I also used 75 of HMG Monday Wednesday and Friday. The two weeks prior to starting this I did 50 mg of clomid every day. I ran this protocol for about three and a half weeks in the next month my wife is pregnant after a year of trying. Unfortunately we lost the pregnancy but I do believe this protocol is effective. It is kind of a poor man's version of Dave palumbo's recommendations
That's a great plan bro. Don't worry about Dave Palumbo's so called fertility protocol, he is not a Medical Doctor. He also thinks testosterone is more Anabolic than Trenbolone... I would listen to guys on YouTube like Dr. O'Connor and Dr. Rand who are actual practicing physicians.
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kubes
Hmg will suppress natty lh and fsh levels cause your brain sees it and it’s just part of the negative feedback loop. Hcg mimics lh where hmg mimics both.
But let me ask this. Do you believe fsh and lh need to be in range to reproduce ? A top level coach told me they didn’t need to be he said he had 2 kids with his fsh and lh both being tanked. Do you think you shouldn’t run Hcg and hmg both ?
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Yes I’ve been off gear for about 2 months now I believe.
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Originally Posted by
cyberninja
are you coming off the gear? If you run the hcg first...theres been great success with one 200mcg shot of triptorellin for getting a longtime steroid user back to operational quickly. Just do not exceed this dosage or you can be chemically castrated. Just ensure your calculations are correct. I read a lot about this stuff, and I have it on hand should I ever stop trt. It basically eliminates the need for a full pct.
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I was doing.
2000iu Hcg eod
75iu hmg eod
50mg clomid eod.
But I just recently decided to switch it up to.
75iu hmg mon wed fri
500iu Hcg tues thurs
50mg clomid mon wed fri
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BostonGearGuy
so beast what are you running with the 2for doses wise, I'm in the same boat I believe with needing my count up, I'm on HCG already but not sure how to get around to getting hmg or dosing with it.
Thanks and glad I saw this
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