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Great post man! Lot of good info. i needed to know!
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just some thoughts for you all.. in the old days, guys used to just wean them selves off with no down time..
Andriol testocaps x 40mg doesn't shut down the pituitary gland. Even on a high dose, your nuts don't shrivel...
I know on the standard dose or 2 x 40mg caps per day, your fsh an LH levels remain fine..
So why aren't people using this method more? Why do people always revert to chemicals that can have sides..
This from an earlier poster "Speaking from XP Clomid can cause strokes, its one of the sides.
Numerous ppl report mild stroke effects while on clomid w/o making the connection.
I was 1 of those idiots and 'slept it off'
6 strokes later, cheating death I am a gimp for life.
If you gonna use it please do yourself a favor and watch for signs, esp blurry vision!"
Or perhaps a much milder pct using a combo of the above and other chemicals?
Any thoughts guys?
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Originally Posted by
Freakenstien
just some thoughts for you all.. in the old days, guys used to just wean them selves off with no down time..
Andriol testocaps x 40mg doesn't shut down the pituitary gland. Even on a high dose, your nuts don't shrivel...
I know on the standard dose or 2 x 40mg caps per day, your fsh an LH levels remain fine..
So why aren't people using this method more? Why do people always revert to chemicals that can have sides..
This from an earlier poster "Speaking from XP Clomid can cause strokes, its one of the sides.
Numerous ppl report mild stroke effects while on clomid w/o making the connection.
I was 1 of those idiots and 'slept it off'
6 strokes later, cheating death I am a gimp for life.
If you gonna use it please do yourself a favor and watch for signs, esp blurry vision!"
Or perhaps a much milder pct using a combo of the above and other chemicals?
Any thoughts guys?
In the old days steroids were new and they didn't have access to the knowledge we do now. Weaning yourself off gear doesn't work. Whether your on 1000mg of test or 200mg of test you are shut down. Proper PCT with Clomid and NOLVA is the best thing to use to kick start your natural test levels again.
The guy that posted the Clomid info above is a worthless idiot that's why he was banned he doesn't even train.
You are over thinking everything here. In one thread you said you ran deca alone and it gave you no sides, then another thread you said it screwed up your test levels. Quit over thinking this stuff bro we have been doing this forever.
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PAiN
In the old days steroids were new and they didn't have access to the knowledge we do now. Weaning yourself off gear doesn't work. Whether your on 1000mg of test or 200mg of test you are shut down. Proper PCT with Clomid and NOLVA is the best thing to use to kick start your natural test levels again.
The guy that posted the Clomid info above is a worthless idiot that's why he was banned he doesn't even train.
You are over thinking everything here. In one thread you said you ran deca alone and it gave you no sides, then another thread you said it screwed up your test levels. Quit over thinking this stuff bro we have been doing this forever.
haha ok fair comments... and yes, Im undecided but leaning towards it scewing up my test.. I didn't crash when I came off. I would have remembered that but I seem to have been lethargic for years, and probably from around the time I took the decca.. was putting two and two together about decca causing issues with lethargy..
Weaning ones self off, I did it when I had been on trt for years, and it worked.. But saying that, I don't think it worked properly as lethargy worse I think and test levels not back to normal.. So ok Pain.. point taken....
Some times I really need to chew things over and get them drummed in to my head to make em stick... Appreciate your comments and advice.. cheers mate.
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So I already have Low T, before using anything. I cruise at 400mg/week with test enanthate.
After a cycle should I continue with that dose.
If I do continue, how does that affect my pct in terms of what to use and what to leave out, if anything?
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very useful post for beginners, thank you
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Great info, definitely going to change up my next PCT
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Originally Posted by
PAiN
Great post brother!
Keep them coming!
good read
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