Thread: How-to Post Cycle Therapy Everything you need to know

Originally Posted by PAiN

In the old days steroids were new and they didn't have access to the knowledge we do now. Weaning yourself off gear doesn't work. Whether your on 1000mg of test or 200mg of test you are shut down. Proper PCT with Clomid and NOLVA is the best thing to use to kick start your natural test levels again.

The guy that posted the Clomid info above is a worthless idiot that's why he was banned he doesn't even train.

You are over thinking everything here. In one thread you said you ran deca alone and it gave you no sides, then another thread you said it screwed up your test levels. Quit over thinking this stuff bro we have been doing this forever.

haha ok fair comments... and yes, Im undecided but leaning towards it scewing up my test.. I didn't crash when I came off. I would have remembered that but I seem to have been lethargic for years, and probably from around the time I took the decca.. was putting two and two together about decca causing issues with lethargy..


Weaning ones self off, I did it when I had been on trt for years, and it worked.. But saying that, I don't think it worked properly as lethargy worse I think and test levels not back to normal.. So ok Pain.. point taken....

Some times I really need to chew things over and get them drummed in to my head to make em stick... Appreciate your comments and advice.. cheers mate.

So I already have Low T, before using anything. I cruise at 400mg/week with test enanthate.

After a cycle should I continue with that dose.

If I do continue, how does that affect my pct in terms of what to use and what to leave out, if anything?

Great info, definitely going to change up my next PCT

Good info thanks for the post

Originally Posted by AllAboutPeptides

How-to Post Cycle Therapy

Everything you need to know

Post cycle therapy is the period of time after your cycle is over in which the main goal is to restore your bodiless natural functions including normal and natural hormone levels. This is done through a few different drugs.




Aromatase Inhibitor


First we need an AI to avoid any amortizing estrogen that may come from the esters that are still clearing and also from the HcG we will be taking the first two weeks of the PCT. This will keep your estrogen levels in check while also helping restore your natural testosterone levels. Some popular AI’s are: Aromasin(exemestane), Arimidex(anastrozole), and Letrozole(Femara). For PCT purposes, our best choice is Aromasin as it is a steroidal AI and also a suicidal AI meaning that enzymes, after bonded, will become inactive and no longer be able to convert testosterone. We will use it at a moderate dose through our PCT. (25mg every day)


Human Chorionic Gonadotropin


HcG, simply put, has an alpha subunit amino chain that is identical to our bodies natural luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH). These two hormones in the body are the “key players” in hormone secretion and also play a key role in sperm production in males. Simply, HcG will “act like” LH in the body, in turn making your testes begin to produce testosterone, which is the whole idea of PCT. But HcG is only a substitute for LH, just to “kick start” the testes into producing. We need to get our body to begin producing its own normal amount of sex hormones, which is what the next drug is for........


Selective estrogen receptor modulator(SERM)

A SERM is what will get our body to start spitting out that much needed luteinizing hormone. Now, there are two main serms that have been used over the years, and the arguement has raged on and on about which is better. They are Nolvadex(tamoxifen citrate) and Clomid(clomiphene citrate). Without going too much in depth, and after my many years of research, I have come to agreement with many other great minds such as William Llewellyn that Nolvadex is clearly superior for a few simple reasons. Please see my stickied thread to read Lywellyns entire article. It will also cover the basics of a SERM, saving me some time

Other Supplements to be used (optional but very beneficial)
• Creatine (fuels ATP)
• L-Carnitine (multiple benefits including sperm health)
• Vitamin B12 (PCT is a known time of lethargy and low appetite, B12 greatly improves this)
• IGF-1 (lr3) Multiple benefits including incredibly anabolic yet non-suppressive, will help muscle tissue continue to grow through PCT.

The suggested protocol
Please keep in mind that this may not be suited for cycles that exceed 18-24 weeks.

HcG- 1,500iu per week for weekk one and two. Split into three, 500iu doses MWF
Aromasin- 25mg/day (week 1+2), 12.5mg/day(weeks 3,4,5)
Nolvadex- 40mg/day (week 1+2+3) 20mg/day (week 4+5++)

Optional Additions (highly recommended)
15 grams of creatine every day (5 sometime in the morning, 10 post workout)
L-Carnitine- 500mg daily
Vitamin b12- I reccomend Synthetek’s Synthelamin, 2ml taken every 3-4 days. Synthelamin – Appetite Stimulator | Synthetek
IGF-1 Lr3- Dosing varies, experienced users only.

And there you have it, a simple and very effective PCT.

My question is this, how long after my last injection would I start my PCT? I just did an 8 week cycle of Test p, Mast p and tren a. 1 cc of each EOD

I've been doing aromasin 12.5 eod and I'm almost done with pct. Is this enough? Also considering extending to a 5th weeks of nolva at 10mg ed.