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    Thread: How-to Post Cycle Therapy Everything you need to know

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      Good read. I'm gonna incorporate the IGF1 lr3 into my pct.

      My dr. prescribed Clomid though - should I Do both clomid and nolva (that's the broscience way ya know)

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      Quote Originally Posted by RockShawn View Post
      Good read. I'm gonna incorporate the IGF1 lr3 into my pct.

      My dr. prescribed Clomid though - should I Do both clomid and nolva (that's the broscience way ya know)
      A quote from William Llewellyn-

      "I am not sure how Clomid and Nolvadex became so separated in the minds of bodybuilders. They certainly should not be. Clomid and Nolvadex are both anti-estrogens belonging to the same group of triphenylethylene compounds. They are structurally related and specifically classified as selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs) with mixed agonistic and antagonistic properties. This means that in certain tissues they can block the effects of estrogen, by altering the binding capacity of the receptor, while in others they can act as actual estrogens, activating the receptor. In men, both of these drugs act as anti-estrogens in their capacity to oppose the negative feedback of estrogens on the hypothalamus and stimulate the heightened release of GnRH (Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone). lh - leutenizing hormone - output by the pituitary will be increased as a result, which in turn can increase the level of testosterone by the testes. Both drugs do this, but for some reason bodybuilders persist in thinking that Clomid is the only drug good at stimulating testosterone. What you will find with a little investigation however is that not only is Nolvadex useful for the same purpose, it should actually be the preferred agent of the two.

      [SIZE=2]Nolvadex is the more purely anti-estrogenic of the two drugs, at least where the hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - (Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular Axis) is concerned. This fact enables Nolvadex to offer the male bodybuilder certain advantages over Clomid. This is especially true at times when we are looking to restore a balanced hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - , and would not want to desensitize the pituitary to GnRH. This could perhaps slow recovery to some extent, as the pituitary would require higher amounts of hypothalamic GnRH in the presence of Clomid in order to get the same level of lh - leutenizing hormone - stimulation."

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      I see no advantages to running both Clomid and Nolva together. However, if you feel the need to combine any two SERMs, I would suggest Nolva and Torem.

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      Quote Originally Posted by RockShawn View Post
      Good read. I'm gonna incorporate the IGF1 lr3 into my pct.

      My dr. prescribed Clomid though - should I Do both clomid and nolva (that's the broscience way ya know)
      My doc did as well and it made me a gimp! BE CAREFUL!

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