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    Thread: How-to Post Cycle Therapy Everything you need to know

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      Lightbulb How-to Post Cycle Therapy Everything you need to know

      How-to Post Cycle Therapy

      Everything you need to know






      Post cycle therapy is the period of time after your cycle is over in which the main goal is to restore your bodiless natural functions including normal and natural hormone levels. This is done through a few different drugs.




      Aromatase Inhibitor


      First we need an AI to avoid any amortizing estrogen that may come from the esters that are still clearing and also from the HcG we will be taking the first two weeks of the PCT. This will keep your estrogen levels in check while also helping restore your natural testosterone levels. Some popular AI’s are: Aromasin(exemestane), Arimidex(anastrozole), and Letrozole(Femara). For PCT purposes, our best choice is Aromasin as it is a steroidal AI and also a suicidal AI meaning that enzymes, after bonded, will become inactive and no longer be able to convert testosterone. We will use it at a moderate dose through our PCT. (25mg every day)


      Human Chorionic Gonadotropin


      HcG, simply put, has an alpha subunit amino chain that is identical to our bodies natural luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle-stimulating hormone (FSH). These two hormones in the body are the “key players” in hormone secretion and also play a key role in sperm production in males. Simply, HcG will “act like” LH in the body, in turn making your testes begin to produce testosterone, which is the whole idea of PCT. But HcG is only a substitute for LH, just to “kick start” the testes into producing. We need to get our body to begin producing its own normal amount of sex hormones, which is what the next drug is for........


      Selective estrogen receptor modulator(SERM)

      A SERM is what will get our body to start spitting out that much needed luteinizing hormone. Now, there are two main serms that have been used over the years, and the arguement has raged on and on about which is better. They are Nolvadex(tamoxifen citrate) and Clomid(clomiphene citrate). Without going too much in depth, and after my many years of research, I have come to agreement with many other great minds such as William Llewellyn that Nolvadex is clearly superior for a few simple reasons. Please see my stickied thread to read Lywellyns entire article. It will also cover the basics of a SERM, saving me some time

      Other Supplements to be used (optional but very beneficial)
      • Creatine (fuels ATP)
      • L-Carnitine (multiple benefits including sperm health)
      • Vitamin B12 (PCT is a known time of lethargy and low appetite, B12 greatly improves this)
      • IGF-1 (lr3) Multiple benefits including incredibly anabolic yet non-suppressive, will help muscle tissue continue to grow through PCT.

      The suggested protocol
      Please keep in mind that this may not be suited for cycles that exceed 18-24 weeks.

      HcG- 1,500iu per week for weekk one and two. Split into three, 500iu doses MWF
      Aromasin- 25mg/day (week 1+2), 12.5mg/day(weeks 3,4,5)
      Nolvadex- 40mg/day (week 1+2+3) 20mg/day (week 4+5++)

      Optional Additions (highly recommended)
      15 grams of creatine every day (5 sometime in the morning, 10 post workout)
      L-Carnitine- 500mg daily
      Vitamin b12- I reccomend Synthetek’s Synthelamin, 2ml taken every 3-4 days. Synthelamin – Appetite Stimulator | Synthetek
      IGF-1 Lr3- Dosing varies, experienced users only.

      And there you have it, a simple and very effective PCT.

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      Indeed a great post. Thanks

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      Thanks! Let's hear everyone's personal favorite pct protocol.

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      Good read. I'm gonna incorporate the IGF1 lr3 into my pct.

      My dr. prescribed Clomid though - should I Do both clomid and nolva (that's the broscience way ya know)

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      Thank you for this information

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      Great post bro

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      I always have so many people ask me this same question. While there is always a little different ways to go on Post-Cyle Therapy I think this post is good as any other I've seen or heard about.While this is a good starting point as to what does what. Simply put I have to tell the guys how to start on what dosage and how to end on such dosage. But in the end they are getting the just of why you need good post cycle drugs..
      So thanks for posting this...

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      Quote Originally Posted by RockShawn View Post
      Good read. I'm gonna incorporate the IGF1 lr3 into my pct.

      My dr. prescribed Clomid though - should I Do both clomid and nolva (that's the broscience way ya know)
      A quote from William Llewellyn-

      "I am not sure how Clomid and Nolvadex became so separated in the minds of bodybuilders. They certainly should not be. Clomid and Nolvadex are both anti-estrogens belonging to the same group of triphenylethylene compounds. They are structurally related and specifically classified as selective estrogen receptor modulators (SERMs) with mixed agonistic and antagonistic properties. This means that in certain tissues they can block the effects of estrogen, by altering the binding capacity of the receptor, while in others they can act as actual estrogens, activating the receptor. In men, both of these drugs act as anti-estrogens in their capacity to oppose the negative feedback of estrogens on the hypothalamus and stimulate the heightened release of GnRH (Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone). lh - leutenizing hormone - output by the pituitary will be increased as a result, which in turn can increase the level of testosterone by the testes. Both drugs do this, but for some reason bodybuilders persist in thinking that Clomid is the only drug good at stimulating testosterone. What you will find with a little investigation however is that not only is Nolvadex useful for the same purpose, it should actually be the preferred agent of the two.

      [SIZE=2]Nolvadex is the more purely anti-estrogenic of the two drugs, at least where the hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - (Hypothalamic-Pituitary-Testicular Axis) is concerned. This fact enables Nolvadex to offer the male bodybuilder certain advantages over Clomid. This is especially true at times when we are looking to restore a balanced hpta - hypothalamic-pituitary-testicular axis - , and would not want to desensitize the pituitary to GnRH. This could perhaps slow recovery to some extent, as the pituitary would require higher amounts of hypothalamic GnRH in the presence of Clomid in order to get the same level of lh - leutenizing hormone - stimulation."

      Conclusion

      I see no advantages to running both Clomid and Nolva together. However, if you feel the need to combine any two SERMs, I would suggest Nolva and Torem.

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      nice post

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