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      i've used hcg in pct multiple times, i think it kept me shut down because i never felt like i recovered. even followed the scally protocol twice in a row as suggested still didn't recover. now I only use it on cycle and stop it at least 3 wks before pct.

      when I added DAA at 3grams/day with nolva 40/40/20/20 my boys were back after only three weeks. I will be adding DAA to all my pcts from now on.

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      Quote Originally Posted by beanlicker View Post
      Clomid and Nolva plan looks fine to me, but it won't be beneficial to start Clomid until the EQ (3 weeks) and test (depends on the ester) clears your system.

      I would only take HCG during cycle. You may find some bros who blast HCG at the end, but I don't practice that technique.

      There are plenty of Sticky Threads in this Forum that will give additional info on PCT as well.
      How do u cycle ur hcg during cycle and do u still need nolva,clomid if u do it that way?

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      Quote Originally Posted by bigdude View Post
      How do u cycle ur hcg during cycle and do u still need nolva,clomid if u do it that way?
      Everyone is different and you may need to experiment to find the right dose. I use 500iu twice per week throughout my cycle.

      When finding the right dose for hcg, always start low like 250iu twice per week then work up if your nuts are shrinking.

      HCG does nothing with regard to inhibition of the hypothalamus and pituitary. Rather it acts like LH, and causes the testicles to produce testosterone just as if LH were present. It is useful then for avoiding testicular atrophy during the cycle. The best dosing method is to use small amounts frequently: 250 iu to 500 IU 2x per week should be sufficient. More is not better: too much HCG can result in down regulation of the LH receptors in the testes, and is therefore counterproductive. Overdosing of HCG can also result in gyno.

      Then 4 days after my last hcg shot, I start my PCT with nolva and clomid. Clomid at 50 mg/day is usually very effective in restoring natural testosterone production. It acts by blocking estrogen receptors at the hypothalamus and pituitary. If androgen levels are not elevated, this is enough to cause production of at least normal amounts of LH, or often more LH than normal. During cycle clomid use cannot prevent inhibition.

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      so i should keep nolva 40mg clomid 50mg then drop nolva to 20mg after week 1

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