Hey BOP, first day of trying my sling shot by mark bell.. I got it as a gift. Well 2 actually.. I got the blue I guess more softer feeling one and the black mad dog edition one... And yea they work great! Seems like the mad dog version is better for me. Feel more locked in. Even tho it's not raw, finally hitting the 5 plate mark is the best feeling, almost as close as hitting you're first 315 pr back in high school! Great product