-
05-14-2018, 04:16 AM
#241
As far as Atheism and Agnostics here is my take and its mainly an argument of semantics.
Agnostics believe that nothing is known or can be known of anything beyond the nature of material phenomena. They claim simply ignorance. They dont believe or not believe.
Atheism however claims God "doesnt" exist.
Agnostics make no knowledgeable claim.
However to claim God doesn't exist, an assumption has to made about "a God" and for anything to not exist now it had o have existed before or you atleast you believed in some context of it. Or else not believing in it now would be pointless. How can someone violently object to something or someone that never existed? Seems odd to me.
If someone ask you about a child you never had, you wouldn't say that child is dead, or he doesnt exist, you'd simply say, "what are you talking about"?
Sent from my LG-M430 using Tapatalk
-
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Thanks, 1 Likes, 0 Dislikes
born thanked for this post
born liked this post
----
-
05-14-2018, 04:23 AM
#242
Originally Posted by
teej750
There is some Blasphemy on this thread.... Hate to see that but each his own.
Raised Southern Baptist
Ventured into Church of Christ
Sent from my LG-M430 using Tapatalk
Also will add...
Once I moved out on my own I attended the church of christ. I tended to believe at the time that there were many who thought they were saved but were not.
I would wager we think a lot alike on many many things.
-
Post Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 1 Likes, 0 Dislikes
----
-
05-14-2018, 04:27 AM
#243
Originally Posted by
teej750
As far as Atheism and Agnostics here is my take and its mainly an argument of semantics.
Agnostics believe that nothing is known or can be known of anything beyond the nature of material phenomena. They claim simply ignorance. They dont believe or not believe.
Atheism however claims God "doesnt" exist.
Agnostics make no knowledgeable claim.
However to claim God doesn't exist, an assumption has to made about "a God" and for anything to not exist now it had o have existed before or you atleast you believed in some context of it. Or else not believing in it now would be pointless. How can someone violently object to something or someone that never existed? Seems odd to me.
If someone ask you about a child you never had, you wouldn't say that child is dead, or he doesnt exist, you'd simply say, "what are you talking about"?
Sent from my LG-M430 using Tapatalk
Its math.
Chris langan pretty much solved this.
0+0 cannot make everything and zero in and of itself cannot exist. Check out langan ant the conitive theory of the model universe (CTMU).
-
Post Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 1 Likes, 0 Dislikes
----
-
05-14-2018, 04:30 AM
#244
Originally Posted by
born
Also will add...
Once I moved out on my own I attended the church of christ. I tended to believe at the time that there were many who thought they were saved but were not.
I would wager we think a lot alike on many many things.
Narrow is the path that leads to salvation but wide is the path that leads to destruction.
This is why in our daily endeavors, be this that or something else, we talk a little, listen more and do our due diligence. There are false teachers, and full of shit people giving advice and wrong info.
Plain a d simple.
Sent from my LG-M430 using Tapatalk
----
-
05-14-2018, 04:39 AM
#245
Originally Posted by
teej750
Narrow is the path that leads to salvation but wide is the path that leads to destruction.
This is why in our daily endeavors, be this that or something else, we talk a little, listen more and do our due diligence. There are false teachers, and full of shit people giving advice and wrong info.
Plain a d simple.
Sent from my LG-M430 using Tapatalk
John 10:29
My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
27-30 gives a broader picture.
-
Post Thanks / Like - 0 Thanks, 1 Likes, 0 Dislikes
----
-
05-14-2018, 04:44 AM
#246
I'm talking about Matthew and the people who stand at the gate quarreling didn't we prophesy in your name
And he says sway from me you evil doer, I never knew you. All these people think they sre living right, they got it all wrong.
Matt chapter 7 I believe.
Sent from my LG-M430 using Tapatalk
----
-
05-14-2018, 04:49 AM
#247
Originally Posted by
teej750
I'm talking about Matthew and the people who stand at the gate quarreling didn't we prophesy in your name
And he says sway from me you evil doer, I never knew you. All these people think they sre living right, they got it all wrong.
Matt chapter 7 I believe.
Sent from my LG-M430 using Tapatalk
Galatians 2:11
But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
Paul called him a hypocrite over circumcision.
----
-
05-14-2018, 04:54 AM
#248
Gotta know tj...
Do you believe once you are saved you can become unsaved?
----
-
05-14-2018, 01:40 PM
#249
I gotta know why jc said he came here to fulfill the law and not to avolish it and not romove anything from it otherwise he is called least in the kindom (Matthew 5:17) Yet paul goes on and on how it is a curse and we a(Jews) no longer need to eo the stuff. Yet Almight Gd himself said forever.
One condradiction in a book equals not divine
Old testament and new testament speak of 2 completely sifferent Gds.
Fornus non-jews the 7 laws of Noah are your way to heaven. Do not break the idolatry one by worshipping a man name jesus who has not filled not even one of the proficies of the Messiah.
Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk
----
-
05-14-2018, 01:54 PM
#250
Originally Posted by
born
Gotta know tj...
Do you believe once you are saved you can become unsaved?
No, you cannot become unsaved but you can certainly stray from the path of the righteous. I believe Galations or James taks about continuing to improve and to repent for out daily sins. We cannot just claim we are saved yet continue to live in the dark unchanging for the better.
Sent from my LG-M430 using Tapatalk
-
Post Thanks / Like - 1 Thanks, 2 Likes, 0 Dislikes
born thanked for this post
----
Bookmarks