I tend to steer clear of religious and political talk. These two subjects have caused more violence than anything else in the world. Most people don't have an open mind when it comes to these things. If we are all really honest with ourselves, i bet none of us have an open mind. You're not going to convince me your view is correct and I'm not going to convince you i am correct. I've never seen a civil debate with these subjects, so i don't bother