Thread: Support it

Originally Posted by exphys88

Against nature? You need to research. It's very common in nature.

I'm as straight as any other heterosexual, I just see the hatred and bigotry thrown on them and feel that as a heterosexual it's my duty to stand up and defend them. This is a nation that purports to be free for everyone.

Btw, this section is politics and religion, it very much belongs here.

im assuming that when you say its very common in nature you mean that animals also do this. we have already established that it happens in nature by acknowledging that humans do this. humans are part of nature right? this does not mean that it doesnt go against nature there are anomalies everywhere. if it did not go against nature then you would be able to procreate with the same sex.

Originally Posted by exphys88

what I'm referring to, and what you're missing is that christians criticize gays and cite the old testament as their cause to discriminate, yet don't criticize men for cutting their hair or eating seafood, or all the other wacky things that god labeled as sin in the old testament. Furthermore, not only do the criticize, they try to force their views into legislation. Should we be able to pass laws prohibiting men from trimming their beards since the old testament labels that as a sin?

There is no legitimate argument against homosexuality. No evidence that they are bad people, do bad things, or cause any more problems than straight people. All we have is scripture that condemns it, but because this is a secular nation, religious nutcases don't get to write their religion into law. If people want a country in which religion is written into law, they should move to Iran.

And, no I don't believe in god, I took biology in junior high and realized that the stories in the bible are just made up. I think with my brain not with my emotions.

I see . had to ask because I wasn´t sure . now I see better where you stand . you simply won´t get what I was after because a. you don´t want to ( your freedo ) and b. because you don´t know christinity well enough ( gain you free choice ) . I´m not gonna repeat for the third time what I said before . when someone is willing to live according God´s will ( and fails on every day basis like me ) and to be said is commonly said "in faith" , his / hers biggest guide in life is the Bible . theh faith doesn´t come only from reading teh Bible , but listening ( ie getting in His Kingdom w fellow believers ) to it as well btw . this said we believers ( to many as good as gays btw or worse , like you state nutcases etc ..) see this issue in different light . we selfish people always seek to fulfill our own needs tha often are masked under different reasons , i this gay matter it´s equality or whatever . it´s obvious you can´t see it . you may call believers all you want , that doesn´t move me one bit . but since you are so eger to seek justice for gays , why then call those who oppose in names ? aren´t they also entitled for their opinion ? like sid , I don´t get your word personally( nobody can get under my skin ) , but as a believer I´m one of those nutcases you are referring to . in a way you have a point there , since under faith´s name all kinds of sick things have been done . that however is not from the God but us humans .

Originally Posted by exphys88

Can you cite the scripture that convinced you that homosexuality is a sin?
If you can, you'll find it in Leviticus, and you'll also find other sins in that exact chapter that you should be concerned about. Unless you only follow certain parts of the bible...

Jesus never condemned homosexuality.

does sodoma and gomorra ring a bell ? what happened to it and why ? that doesn´t clearly show anything ? nope sire , our Lord does not support gay way ( or any other loose flying from flower to flower , something to you might be consider as basic right ? if one needs to do so , he / she must be allowed to do that right ?). this is as useless as trying to turn a democrat into a rebublican btw .

Originally Posted by exphys88

Lol, so you abide by what is considered sin in the Old Testament? So you don't trim your hair?

You're a bigot and use a fake story to support your hate.

Either way you lose unless you live in a country like Iran. The US is a secular nation and fortunately doesn't allow people like you to impose your hatred into our laws. In fact, the Supreme Court is about to rule that banning gay marriage is unconstitutional. The tide us turning and you're now in the minority.

People like you used to use Christianity to argue for keeping slaves, and then to oppose interracial marriage. It's called progress and those that won't progress will simply be labeled as bigots.

If you would just keep your religion to yourself and not try to force it onto others, there wouldn't be a problem. The world is 70% non Christian, therefore the majority of humans think your religion is fake and don't want to be bothered by it. Keep it to your fucking self. It's called separation of church and state, and it's why America is great!

it would be great if you would just keep your opinions to your fucking self. no one want s to hear it

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