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We are all gods
In quantum mechanic's experiments, like the double slit experiment,t it can be shown that the act of observing an event effects the outcome of that event. So I was thinking maybe we all collectively create the reality in which we live and in essence we are all the architects of the universe. Without any conscious being the whole universe would exist in superposition without anything definite ever happening.
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But then comes the question where did intelligence ultimately come from? Non-intelligence can not breed intelligence. My point being that there must be an ultimate intelligence from which all intelligence comes.
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Originally Posted by
bufbiker
But then comes the question where did intelligence ultimately come from? Non-intelligence can not breed intelligence. My point being that there must be an ultimate intelligence from which all intelligence comes.
Who is to say that the universe itself at its fundamental level is not the ultimate intelligence? I don't see the need to push the cause of intelligence to some sort of God, which you could ask the same question about, "who created God? Can you see the fallacy within the argument that intelligence must have come from other intelligence? Either intelligence was spawned out of non-intelligence or intelligence itself is woven into the fabric of space time. Trying to say that some intelligence outside of the universe created intelligence within the universe seems rather arbitrary since there is no evidence for this and no way to test it. A theoretical quantum physicist named Amit Goswami seems to believe that the universe itself at the fundamental level is simply consciousness and all the information that is held within the universe. He has written books on the subject that are quite fascinating. I agree with him on this idea. I think that we are the universe itself become conscious within itself in order to explore and understand itself. This awaking of the universe within itself is accomplished through evolution.
Last edited by phfreak; 04-27-2013 at 10:18 PM.
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Originally Posted by
bufbiker
But then comes the question where did intelligence ultimately come from? Non-intelligence can not breed intelligence. My point being that there must be an ultimate intelligence from which all intelligence comes.
this is the speculation that makes you believe it to be so, but why can't one cell become two and so forth until what you call intelligence is formed. self awareness makes us feel so important . We have a need to believe some greater purpose placed us here, infact we are simply animals. no more important in this planet than a fea
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Originally Posted by
Misterb
this is the speculation that makes you believe it to be so, but why can't one cell become two and so forth until what you call intelligence is formed. self awareness makes us feel so important . We have a need to believe some greater purpose placed us here, infact we are simply animals. no more important in this planet than a fea
Nicely put Breh!!! Agreed.
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Originally Posted by
Misterb
this is the speculation that makes you believe it to be so, but why can't one cell become two and so forth until what you call intelligence is formed. self awareness makes us feel so important . We have a need to believe some greater purpose placed us here, infact we are simply animals. no more important in this planet than a fea
Show me the verified then duplicated science.
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Originally Posted by
bufbiker
Show me the verified then duplicated science.
Are you asking for the evidence for evolution? While it would be impossible to reproduce the single celled organism all the way up to mankind, the evidence for evolution is staggering fossil records, dna, predictions that evolution has made and then later were proven to be true ( an example of this is the hypothesis that humans have 23 chromosomes because our ancestorers who had 24 chromosomes fused 2 chromosome into one. This has since been proven, by the evaluation of DNA) . The fact that main stream religions teach against evolution and a 6,000 year old universe remind me of the trial of Galileo who had scientific evidence for the fact that the earth revolves around the sun, but the church condemned him to live in house arrest the rest of his life because there doctrine claimed the earth was the center of the solar system. There have been experiments that have successfully shown that amino acids, the building blocks of DNA, could easily have been created during the formation of earth or possibly on another planet. Considering how vast the universe is it seems likely that somewhere in the universe these amino acids would form the first single celled organisms. After that it is simply survival of the fittest for these self replicating single celled organisms to evolve into multicelled organisms. This process of survival of the fittest has a wealth of evidence and evolutionary changes within a species have been document so we know that this happens in nature. Modern religion is doing what it always has done by denying scientific discoveries if they don't line up with their holy book that was written by men thousands of years ago. I believe there is a correlation between the high percentage of religious people in the US and the low scores in Science our country produces. Claiming religion is the authority over science is absurd, but it is a belief held by roughly half of all US citizens.
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phfreak
remind me of the trial of Galileo who had scientific evidence for the fact that the earth revolves around the sun, but the church condemned him to live in house arrest the rest of his life because there doctrine claimed the earth was the center of the solar system..
So no crystal spheres out there with rods holding them up..bummer !
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Originally Posted by
phfreak
Are you asking for the evidence for evolution? While it would be impossible to reproduce the single celled organism all the way up to mankind, the evidence for evolution is staggering fossil records, dna, predictions that evolution has made and then later were proven to be true ( an example of this is the hypothesis that humans have 23 chromosomes because our ancestorers who had 24 chromosomes fused 2 chromosome into one. This has since been proven, by the evaluation of DNA) . The fact that main stream religions teach against evolution and a 6,000 year old universe remind me of the trial of Galileo who had scientific evidence for the fact that the earth revolves around the sun, but the church condemned him to live in house arrest the rest of his life because there doctrine claimed the earth was the center of the solar system. There have been experiments that have successfully shown that amino acids, the building blocks of DNA, could easily have been created during the formation of earth or possibly on another planet. Considering how vast the universe is it seems likely that somewhere in the universe these amino acids would form the first single celled organisms. After that it is simply survival of the fittest for these self replicating single celled organisms to evolve into multicelled organisms. This process of survival of the fittest has a wealth of evidence and evolutionary changes within a species have been document so we know that this happens in nature. Modern religion is doing what it always has done by denying scientific discoveries if they don't line up with their holy book that was written by men thousands of years ago. I believe there is a correlation between the high percentage of religious people in the US and the low scores in Science our country produces. Claiming religion is the authority over science is absurd, but it is a belief held by roughly half of all US citizens.
And the fossil evidence for the "missing link" is where? Still missing. You'd think they would find at least one specimen since they seem to have found multiple specimen of every other kind of life all the way down to single celled organisms.
Monkeys are still monkeys. I've never seen one evolve into a human, nor has anyone else in the history of mankind. Maybe because monkeys were made like man but still made as monkeys.
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And if in fact we were all collectively living and creating our own reality, then how can one live in unison, with one another and not affect the ultimate outcome of the persons next to us? But then again order is created from chaos!!
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