Thread: ozpharma bust

Originally Posted by Tigar

The claim was made about 3 years ago , I remember his personal details including the name of a tiling business being posted up .
the part that now after reading all these reports is “ the scam “he was running involved pretending he had cancer and a whole bunch of other sorry stories .
but this sounds unlikely now that we see these charges .
perhps someone was using his name at th time of his initial bust ?
maybe police were using his accounts ?

the same forum that posted these accusations is now closed as well by the way .

all this makes me wonder ........ WHAT TH FUCK IS GOING ON?

That happens to be easy to answer especially now that you have written it up like that. But I am not going to post the exact answer. Instead I will give you another way of looking at this. A forum is owned and run by someone, therefore it is safe to conclude that the forum did it with the owners consent. The next step is to ask yourself what possible motives might there be for a person to put up that information. Since there are possible motives, the next step is to ask what reason you have to believe what the forum said in the first place. Is there any evidence? None that is credible.

Every bit of information you come across, you must be sceptical about and you have to develop your reasoning and analytical skills. You have to do this yourself because it is very difficult to find any discussion of it anywhere. And if you do find it, you won't know if they are telling the truth. This is all done deliberately. National leaders have for over a century been manipulating the public. It goes back to the British during World War One and their attempts to get the United States to enter the war on the side of the allies. The US population were overwhelmingly (up to 90%) against going to war. President Wilson won the 1916 election on November 7th 1916 on an anti-war platform. But the US entered the war on April 7th 1917 with strong support from the population. How is that possible?

I am not gonna say it. I will give you a hint. The media. Ever since then that method has been used by democratic countries to control what the population thinks. After all if I can convince you to risk your life for no gain whatsoever, then there is virtually nothing you can't be tricked into believing and then doing. One more hint. If you read Mein Kampf Hitler mentions it in there.

The point of all this is that national leaders have wanted to influence what we believe for many reasons. Another way they do it is through the education system. It is deliberately dumbed down. Again I am not going to spell it out. But I will give you a source. In 1975 the US Government released a report called The Crisis of Democracy by the Trilateral Commission. If you read right through it the answer is in there. The US Government tried to recall and pulp the report when it first got published. They failed, but they then promoted the authors to senior positions in the US Administration.

So putting up information about Ozpharma and getting people to believe it is very very straightforward.

I will leave you with something Goring said in an interview at Nuremberg on 18th April 1946

Goring: Why, of course, the people don't want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece? Naturally, the common people don't want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship.
Gilbert: There is one difference. In a democracy, the people have some say in the matter through their elected representatives, and in the United States only Congress can declare wars.Göring: Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.