Thread: fake British Dragon!...World Pharma IS A RAT.

Originally Posted by SloppyJ

Glad this finally came out.

What do you mean "finally came out"???? This is old news.

How about the fake FDA page that world pharma has which list them as human grade. I called world pharma out on this bullshit tactic on another forum, then he pretended he didn't understand english. What a joke. I AM STILL WAITING ON AN EXPLANATION OF THIS FAKE THIALAND FDA PAGE IF ANYONE CAN ELABORATE ON THIS!. I am sure the thread is still there, I can provide links if you like....

World pharma is old news... Lying bullshit. Why anyone would fuck with them is beyond me.

Strong first post, I know I'm new here, but I'm around on other boards.

Originally Posted by paolo123

I love it when he says he has FDA approved tren

LOL!!!!!

That is the biggest joke out there, too bad you brought that topic up. I was waiting for WP to reply, trying to justify their claims before I brought that issue up.

Who can provide a legitimate link to a REAL pharma grade company that distributes tren for human consumption????

:eagerly awaiting reply from world pharma:

Did world pharma pull down their fake FDA website? Here is apost from another formum exposing the real FDA vs fake website that WP provided. The original poster name has been removed:

World-Pharma, selling "Asia-Pharma" products, are all bogus. They claim to be registered with the Thai FDA, and they most certainly are not. Furthermore, they try to hide this fact by providing a fabricated link to the "alleged" website of the Thailand FDA.

They provide the following site as the site to reference the Thai FDA for their products and licensees. The site is a fabrication, which is only purpose to further propagate the falsehood that their products are "Human Grade."-

http://www2.fda.moph...rug/dcenter.asp

The real Thailand FDA website is available in both ENGLISH and THAI languages. And is VERY similar to the above mentioned website, except for a few discrepancies.

English - http://www.fda.moph....h/eng/index.stm

Thai- http://www.fda.moph.go.th/fdamain.stm

Notice the www2 is not in there. What is genius about their copy FDA website, is that if you click one of the links, it brings you back to the "Main Page" of the Thailand real version Thai FDA website. Google translator has proved to be a marvelous tool, which I do not think they counted on anyone using. The products they claim to be registered only show on the fake website.

On the REAL Thai FDA website, is available a list of ALL GMP certified laboratories licensed and operating within the country of Thailand, and they are on neither the approved list of manufacturers nor distributors/pharmacy's. I will provide links at your request.

Furthermore, and what is more disturbing, is the information about the vast amount of scamming being done by these websites, refer to this thread on Scam.com at the following-

http://www.scam.com/...ad.php?p=844484


Where there are numerous complaints of orders placed with "World-Pharma" and never receiving a product, or receiving a large amount of fake gear.

Here is another post which references the same FAKE FDA website:



Here's the article just copied and pasted so if the formatting is a bit screwed up apologies. (The Image is titled FDA Approval–Seriously? and is taken from the same article)

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Shakespeare said it best, “What’s in a name?�

It’s important to state from the beginning that I decided to write this article as a regular consumer. I do not have an affiliation with any lab or company. I do have an innate sense of what is right and what is wrong, and I feel so frustrated when companies think the rest of us are so ignorant that can try to sell us a bill of goods and we will lap it up simply because they said so.

What am I writing about? World Pharma of course. Read on and see what is provoking me and many others to revolt against this deceitful company.
Playing the Game


World Pharma stacks the deck against you.

World-Pharma is playing a game with the uneducated buyer searching for “top-quality steroids.� They are using the old British Dragon name, along with claims that they also carry an “FDA, WHO, GMP approved� Asia Pharma to get their way.

Sadly, it is through complete fabrication and the use of paradox information that keeps World-Pharma.org operational and thriving. Lets start by taking a look at the “new� British Dragon.

The new British Dragon being produced is not related to the old British Dragon. It is just a new UGL that has purchased the rights to use BD’s large and once highly reputable name.
Low Quality at High Prices

According to an article on steroidslive.com, the new line is sub-par and until this point has shown itself to be lower in quality than the old BD. Obviously, World-Pharma came in and saw a business opportunity to produce the British Dragon line in an “Underground� style, raise the price beyond reason, and justify this by calling it British Dragon.

Of course, to the uneducated consumer, this plan has worked. World-Pharma.org is becoming one of the most wealthy steroid sites around.

WP also has a banner on almost all steroid blogs including Anthony Roberts’ own blog, which, for some hypocritically bizarre reason, no longer features the posts about the new BD being sub par to the old one. Data loss maybe–this writer knows better.
The World-Pharma Game Plan

World-Pharma contrives many game plans. One of them is posting their own reviews on forums using multiple user accounts. These reviews tell how “great� their products are, but the problem is—the SAME exact review appears on a WP owned or managed board.

Clearly, the author of the blog somehow has rights or permission to publish the review, leading us with no other choice to believe that they (“Pacha� on IronMag) are affiliated with WP. Now people are starting to notice.

When forum members started to ask for specifics including testing standards, printouts, or even what gear was tested—there was no reply from “Pacha� or World-Pharma on the matter.

Subsequently, the thread was locked by a moderator. Now unless you were born yesterday, anyone can see that there is something seriously fishy going on here.

Another of their tactics is attacking other major and well-known competitors, including GenXXL, and most recently, Napsgear. I am happy to provide citations for this—you can email me directly at [email protected]. I will not help spread WP’s propaganda for obvious reasons.

This isn’t the first time WP has been caught in the act. The owner of the popular bodybuilding forum Meathedz, banned and exposed WP for some of their games. The whole article can be found here. (Note: some of the links no longer work but you can do the research yourself and find the working ones.)
FDA Approval–Seriously?


Photo from: FDA Thailand

One of the biggest shams WP runs is saying (and poorly—I may add): “Dear guys as we say all the time, we sale only GMP-WHO and FDA gear and we do our best to make our customers happy!�

Now they are attempting to convince us that British Dragon is GMP-WHO and FDA approved? Any veteran steroid user knows much better than that. So let’s take a look at their other brand of product, which they charge an even more ridiculous price for—Asia Pharma.

Yes, Asia-Pharma was on the THAI FDA website as certified, but on January, 28th 2010 that certification became no longer valid. Look for yourself—#9 on the list.

Their certification specifically states: “This certificate does not include Non-sterile products (Semi-solid dosage forms). This site does not produce Cephalosporin products, Beta-lactam products, Sex hormones and Anti-cancer products.�

This means, even when they were certified, their sex hormone products–which are all steroids to any of you who are 100% clueless–were never FDA approved.
Hmm…What’s the Difference?

Now, World-Pharma and Asia Pharma will reference a page that looks very similar to the real Thai FDA site. Compare for yourself.

Thai FDA: (Feel free to Google “Thai FDA� and see the link yourself).

http://www.fda.moph.go.th/eng/drug/index.stm

World Pharma’s Reference:

http://www2.fda.moph.go.th/consumer/drug/dcenter.asp

These web addresses are both different only because of the extensions, which don’t really matter. The base address does not change.

Thai FDA:

http://www.fda.moph.go.th

World Pharma’s Reference:

http://www2.fda.moph.go.th

If you searched for it using Google, I’m sure you are wondering why you didn’t get a www2.~ link. Well, that’s because it is a fabricated mirror link, which means, whoever has the rights to that site, may not necessarily be the same as the www.~ site.

While writing this article, I went to the Asia Pharma website and clicked on their fake FDA link, which of course is the www2. Try the link yourself— it doesn’t even work as of 7/20/10.

Don’t you think an FDA-GMP approved lab would have a working reference link to the real FDA website? This way the consumer could check the certification. They most certainly would, but of course Asia Pharma does not—simply because they are not certified.
Asia Pharma Lies


Uncovering the lies and replacing them with truth.

Asia Pharma is also the first UGL that lies about how they make their UGL gear. It is without a doubt the world’s most expensive UGL.

Here is a quote from “Bigkarch,� whom many of you know is a mod on many bodybuilding forums:

btw Pnut…I have asked several sites from asia pharma, world pharma, pharam eu etc for a pharmacy license number…I to this day have not gotten one. world pharma said (and I believe they are all related) that they talked to their attorneys and they were told not to give it to me. I call that bullshit….Ive been an attorney over 12 yrs and know better… that info has to be public and on file…and no one can find it, give it, or knows about it…so I know damn well they are not a real pharmacy..

if they are (and they arent) they will get busted soon.. thai gov (or other asian gov) and the u.s. gov work together. if usda/fda/customs/fbi/dea and whom ever find out what a AP and the others are doing by selling sending aas into the u.s. without a script or other legitimate/medical reason, they will soon get busted. and it will turn into a big sting as it has before…. that is why, other than their prices are outrageous, I will not buy, nor will I suggest anyone else to buy from them…I have been offered free gear from them and declined…they were a sponser on a source board I mod at and told the board owner of all the spamming they did and were taken off the board. they emailed the owner and said they were pissed and would put that board on every scammer list they could…

You can find more on the topic here.

Along with this, a whole new article was recently published on GenXXL about Asia Pharma.

A thread that tried to expose Asia Pharma for being a UGL was recently blocked by moderators on IronMagazineForums.com. I assume after my article is posted, the thread will be deleted entirely—so I have opted to save the screenshots for proof. Read it while you can.

Here are some links you can read regarding AP being a UGL:

• Asia Pharma Front, The Jig Is Up | Gossip
• Asia Pharma ugl or human? – Muscle Chat Bodybuilding Forum – Fitness and Sports Nutrition
• Human or ugl-asia pharma? – Anabolic Steroids, Bodybuilding Discussion Forums – Steroidology
• Asia pharma – Anabolic Steroids, Bodybuilding Discussion Forums – Steroidology
• Asia pharma gear – UK-Muscle Body Building Community – Bodybuilding Forum
Final Thoughts

So, as it appears, WP is not selling any GMP-WHO or FDA approved gear—despite their claims and jacked up prices.

My final thought—and hopefully yours: Why haven’t you read about this on forums or any other blogs? Well, the truth is money talks.

WP has a huge amount of control in very popular forums, like Professional Muscle, where you will get banned, and threads deleted for challenging their validity.

Could it be that WP is paying them so much money to do things like mass PM’s by the Admin (I’m sure all you ProM members got one) and to screen all posts made about WP?

They say hindsight is 20/20. Given what you have read now, all backed up by fact, it would be this writer’s warning to advise you to stay away from WP. They are nothing more than smoke and mirrors. Really there are so many other well-known and trusted suppliers out there. Why pay exhorbitant prices for substandard product. Why would you want to deal with a company that from the outset tries to deceive you? Do they really believe they are so smart…or is it that they just think that we are dumb?

By Tim Greenly

Chrisotpherm you seem like a good guy you rly do... Your working for a KNOWN scammer! You are being used. He is prolly giving you quality gear so youll rep him no matter what other ppl say, while his customers (noobs) are getting fucked. I have an idea.... How about World-Phrma pic a senior member OR vet on this board and provide a free cycle, then that person can do a full log on it... I know he makes pleanty of money so this shouldnt be an issue, MAKE IT HAAPPEN, If not well....^^^^^^ Now about being LE of some sort and doing AAS doesnt make you a bad person, theres nothing wrong with AAS so why wouldnt you wnt to better yourself so a goon doesnt fuck you up lol. I as well am looking into a career in LE Does that make me a bad person? a liar? No cuz most of you know im one of the most honest ppl in this game and id nvr let this side of my life be brought up in anyway. Give Chriso a break he is just being LEAD BY THE WRONG PERSON. However if you LIVE AND LEARN and that may be what he needs... Btw ill make this clear, FIST, PAOLO, yall will understand my meaning in this post better than others so dont get the wrong idea im def against using WP thats why i nvr have! I think my free cycle idea is a good fucking idea tho LOL. Lets keep LE talk off the open boards anyway fellas we may have our dif opinions on whats right or wrong but no rsn to get anybody in trouble disclosing to much info!

Look at my post in the scammers section about yall and tell me what you think of my idea... If you pass on the idea it will only hurt you worse i blv because if your gear is as good as you claim then you should want to jump on this idea. If you do accept pic an honest senior/vet member and they will do a log on your gear, i blv this could go one of two ways... Your choice, think about it like this... If its a great review then you just made ALOT of ppl put there foot in there mouth. If not then they win and all there acusations our correct and this will all be settled. Just and idea take it or leave it. Just ready for all this to be smashed its been going on for a long time now and i blv my idea is solid. Good day.