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That's all about to change there starting new declare forms for overseas shipping out of the US so I'd be very careful .
Let me say this and I want say anything else . A mass spec machine cost around $250k if your lucky . The business model the guy is running just dosent work the math just don't add up .
Just food for thought brothers
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I've read the old thread about jano on meso, where Mands caught him in a lie. I'm not going to defend him in any way, he obviously screwed up there. Not too familiar with what went down with him on other forums.
But I will say I have sent two blind oil samples to him, and the correct hormone and dosage was identified. He is used a lot of some forums and lately, seems to have turned things around.
Again, just my experience and what I've seen within last few years. There aren't many companies I trust to send samples to. There is a lab4tox, but I think they don't accept many payment options.
I was trying to highlight there should be no human intervention when the computer provides data from the test?
Only exception is if the test was man made?
It’s like going to a brothel and the Madame of the house offers you a pick of Virgins?
Before choosing a 2 bagger , I just turned the light off and saved a few bucks.
God speed truth and transparency!
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I was trying to highlight there should be no human intervention when the computer provides data from the test?
Only exception is if the test was man made?
It’s like going to a brothel and the Madame of the house offers you a pick of Virgins?
Before choosing a 2 bagger , I just turned the light off and saved a few bucks.
God speed truth and transparency!
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I believe Janoshik should be deemed public enemy #1.
He has ended sponsors reputations and livelihood by his fake reports.
Imagine someone taking Thyroid medicine using data Janoshik provided ?
What about the toxicity of orals measured in MCG?
The amount of money he has raked in far surpasses any scammers imagination.
Just the fact that he lied on every platform in every country makes him public enemy #1.
I will spend the rest of my time as a Administrator and board owner seeking a honest HPLC testing facility.
"The greatest trick the Devil ever played was convincing the world he didn't exist".
Kudos Janoshik!
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JANOSHIK TESTING
What I take from this and hopefully doesn’t get misconstrued by anyone:
Jano used to be the way to go for testing here. There even was an opportunity to donate to BOP to get samples tested, if I’m not mistaken.
Combing through the threads of deep thread diving with my self contained bullshit apparatus, I see where a lot of members, ones now highly against Jano, used to sing praises. It’s easy to follow the crowd and just add to the chaos.
Without a resolve this has become inefficient and ineffective in the goal of forward progress. Compare it to bodybuilding right? Why be stale and make no forward progress and just take a bunch of drugs?
There is a priceless process to follow. Speaking of the same realm we enjoy here. AAS, bodybuilding, fitness, food, etc etc.
The conclusion, as I see it on BOP, is that Janoshik testing is non-credible and highly frowned upon. By both certain members, some staff, and some sponsors. I also see the stance of the sponsors that use Jano just trying to add a step of verification for their product lines. An investment but with obvious flaws and complex positive and negative history.
So how do we actually move forward? It’s becoming an issue, obviously, where one side is technically repelling against the labs that are currently using it. Yet it remains a controversial topic leading to dangerous replies and possibly more tension as it continues to grow into a bigger monster.
Regards and respects
Popeye
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The bottom line here is the guy is a scammer . He has scammed sponsors , members and boards. If is ingored then that's up to the sponsors and boards . But members pay the price in end .
What's happens when another sponsor buys your products and sends them to the scammer and newbie comes along and post that thst your products are under dosed ?
This guy has attack long standing sponsors before also . Best lab reports to the highest bidder lol
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The bottom line here is the guy is a scammer . He has scammed sponsors , members and boards. If is ingored then that's up to the sponsors and boards . But members pay the price in end .
What's happens when another sponsor buys your products and sends them to the scammer and newbie comes along and post that thst your products are under dosed ?
This guy has attack long standing sponsors before also . Best lab reports to the highest bidder lol
I get it dude. I do.
How do you recommend BOP, it’s members and sponsors to move forward from this topic?
Constructively, I would like to see some type of discussion about a solution not just hey here is the problem. Which we all see that.
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Before anyone wants to engage in discussions about Janoshik.
I recommend going to the Analytical test section.
I opened it to the public. This is so everyone can research the information.
Then take note there is only 2 rounds of results posted.
Yet, 3 rounds sent off and paid for in Advance.
Round #3 pack arrived today !!
Please add cost and tell me what I spent?
I left all his excuses up unedited for everyone to see.
Why did he not perform 3rd round tests and email results?
Maybe because he wasn’t sure what samples were duplicates?
The original post was a HPLC lab I found in India.
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Shocked at how far from reality I was, I could only throw in the towel.
Janoshik completely undermined any ability of legitimately moving forward.
The exact reason Pain and others knew Janoshik could go unchallenged for a very long time.
I will close the doors and turn out the lights before letting this go.
It cost me money and reputation back then.
Now the stakes are higher!!
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Who do you trust? Such a difficult question. Follow the threads, and check out the feedback, but most importantly get tested yourself. No disrespect to anyone, or any source, but if you can't get a simple bottle of test correct how in the world can you be trusted to get something like Primo right? Sources are definitely put in a difficult position when they're trying to build their brand, and it's practically impossible to get their products tested at a legit lab. User feedback is key imo
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