The preworkout thread

**teej750** · 05-03-2018, 11:23 PM

Dang bro, what do you do with all these pre workouts you try? Lol. I bet you have a cupboard of expiring shit.

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**Elvia1023** · 08-19-2018, 02:29 AM

I have been meaning to update this thread for ages

I have forgotten a lot of the details I was going to post

I have used a lot of products since my last post. I will add more to this post over the next few days. I need to post a revised list as well. I recently bought Nutrabio's PRE, SAN's Fierce Domination and Dymatize's Pre w.o.

Nutrabio's PRE is a great product full of useful ingredients at effective doses. I need to use it a few more times but I am thinking 8.5/10. It's what I call a complete pre workout but it just misses that wow factor.
SAN's Fierce Domination is another good one. Nice energy and feel and good pumps. I use 2 scoops of that. I am thinking 8/10 but I also need to use that a few more times as I have only used it once in the last 3 weeks.

Dymatize's Pre w.o. I used awhile back and it felt ok. I used it again the other day and I felt awful from it. My gf even tried it and felt exactly the same. I will try it again but it's gonna be a low score even though on paper it looks good. I would probably say a 5/10 but I will try it again to access it better.

I have also just ordered 2 new products and should get them on Monday so I will post more on that next week. Has anyone tried any good new pre workouts recently?

**d-man** · 08-19-2018, 01:42 PM

I use this. No proprietary blend bullshit. Great ingredients and properly doses. I get a clean energy pump and focus every time with no crash or jitters ever.

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**BombdotCom** · 09-21-2018, 01:46 AM

This is what I use it's my favorite

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**Elvia1023** · 12-19-2018, 01:22 AM

I have been using Excelsior at 1 scoop or 1 scoop and about 1/6 and it's great. Somedays feel better than others though. I tend to get that crazy euphoria when I go closer to 1.5 scoops. I usually add 1/2-1 scoop of Full as Fuck as well for crazy pumps.

I used Nutrex Outlift Amped at 1.5 scoops and that is a solid pre workout and I always feel good on it.

One day I used 1 1/4 scoops of Kill it Reloaded and it didn't feel that good.

A short break from preworkouts over Christmas will do my mind/body good though.

I definitely feel like an alternative to Excelsior so I can rotate them. Instead of something brand new I would rather pick one I know will be great.
Looking back at everything I have used if I had to pick one right now to order again it would be Betancourt's D-Stunner Alpha or Hyphymud 2.0. I will probably pick up a tub of D-Stunner Alpha over the next few weeks. The original was banned but I never got to use that but heard it was amazing. I assume it was because the newer version (Alpha) is a great product.

**YourSteroidGuy** · 12-19-2018, 03:53 PM

Almost any fat burner that has a clean stim feeling will work for a preworkout. Black coffee sometimes isn't bad too.

Popeye* · 01-02-2019, 10:45 PM

My top 3 picks:
1. Do Vitamins Pure Pump
2. Legion Pulse
3. Optimum Nutrition Platinum Pre

Labdoor.com has some great info on products they actually lab test including pre workouts. Conveniently these are their top 3 picks I think.

Some top name brands would surprise you as far as safety and accuracy goes.

Pure pump is awesome though for me. Simple and additive free. Don’t buy it for taste though if that’s your thing or you will be heavily disappointed haha.

Popeye

**Elvia1023** · 01-09-2019, 02:54 AM

I have been doing a little reading on DMHA and it's various aliases. You basically have synthetic and natural forms. Some of the terms used on the labels include dimethylhexylamine, octodrine, 2-aminoisoheptane, juglans regia extract, kigelia africana and walnut bark extract (etc).

The reason I started reading up is I was interested in it's possible effects on blood glucose. Fact is when I use it pre workout I have been going hypo post workout if I don't eat straightaway. This is obviously without any insulin usage and even when using a reasonable amount (40-60g) of intra carbs. The fact I train very hard and for long periods is the biggest contributor to me feeling like this post wotkout. It's happened before but with the addition of DMHA it's happening everytime I don't eat straightaway post workout.

Diabetics obviously respond differently to none diabetics. Nevertheless I have found some interesting info. Most notably in studies Juglans regia extract at 200mg daily has been shown to significantly decrease FBG, HbA1c, total cholesterol and triglyceride levels. There is much more info and feel free to check out for yourselves but I figured I would highlight it.

**Elvia1023** · 01-09-2019, 04:15 AM

Originally Posted by Elvia1023

I have been doing a little reading on DMHA and it's various aliases. You basically have synthetic and natural forms. Some of the terms used on the labels include dimethylhexylamine, octodrine, 2-aminoisoheptane, juglans regia extract, kigelia africana and walnut bark extract (etc).

The reason I started reading up is I was interested in it's possible effects on blood glucose. Fact is when I use it pre workout I have been going hypo post workout if I don't eat straightaway. This is obviously without any insulin usage and even when using a reasonable amount (40-60g) of intra carbs. The fact I train very hard and for long periods is the biggest contributor to me feeling like this post wotkout. It's happened before but with the addition of DMHA it's happening everytime I don't eat straightaway post workout.

Diabetics obviously respond differently to none diabetics. Nevertheless I have found some interesting info. Most notably in studies Juglans regia extract at 200mg daily has been shown to significantly decrease FBG, HbA1c, total cholesterol and triglyceride levels. There is much more info and feel free to check out for yourselves but I figured I would highlight it.

After reading the above I should make it more clear I am not using this has evidence for me going hypo. Those change were over a 3 month period when using 200mg Juglans regia per day. Nevertheless still very interesting data especially if you are using DMHA pre workouts most days per week. I also forgot to mention that there were no adverse effects including any liver or kidney damage. I still think DMHA is definitely having a contributing effect but the main reason are my fairly long and hard workouts that can deplete me. The DHMA products also stay with me a long time which can be positive and negative. I definitely feel shorter cycles are needed for these stronger stimulants so I will probably have a 2 weeks off all DHMA based products soon.

**Elvia1023** · 01-13-2019, 01:40 AM

I used Dymatize's Pre tonight. I haven't marked it officially yet as I have only used it a couple of times. I wasn't sure about it in the past but it felt great tonight. I know one of the main reasons for that and let me explain...

I have been using a lot of stronger stimulant based preworkouts recently and they feel amazing in the gym but many times I finish my workout and I always feel destroyed. I train hard but I know that's just a small factor as I trained brutally hard tonight and felt great afterwards. A lot of times I literally struggle to walk home after the gym as I am that out of it. They can also elevate your heart rate so much your breathing is effected. A few times I have wanted to get a sauna post workout recently and it would be horrible due to me being so out of breath. I love the focus DMHA gives but it can have these negatives. Amp citrate is another great one but it can do the same. I have never really responded that well to DMAA and it would make me feel sick very often. DHMA is generally much more smoother for me than the others and my fav out of the 3. Although on all of them I can have good/bad days depending upon dose, diet and training etc.

The likes of Excelsior makes me feel so euphoric so it's amazing I just have to be careful with my dose. The bad thing is I only get that crazy euphoric feeling at higher doses so it's a win/lose situation. Many of the others I have used recently bring great focus/energy but it's not usually without negatives. Anyway tonight it felt good and I had nice energy, great pumps and no negatives.

I personally like the beta alanine tingles and this preworkout hits you hard as it's dosed at 3.2g. So many products claim 2-3.2g on their label but I never feel a thing. But within 5 mins of dosing my whole face was tingling. It also contains a lot of ingredients that assist pumps/fullness. My intra shake covers that but the addition only adds to things. Here are the full ingredients...