The preworkout thread

**maxmuscle1** · 01-20-2020, 12:24 AM

Originally Posted by Elvia1023

I just have to add in 3 products to my list that I have tried many times recently. They are Myoblox's Loco Cinco XO, OuttenFit Nutrition's Revive V2 and Inspired DVST8. I will receive another tub of Excelsior on Monday and looking forward to trying it out again. Otherwise I have no other new preworkouts but I will likely order Alpha Neon's Darkside and Naughtyboy Lifestyle's Menace in the near future. I do have 1 amp of Sopharma's injectable ephedrine at 50mg/ml to use if I ever feel like it

Nice feedback Elvia, very nice! Thanks!

Max

**Enigma** · 01-20-2020, 03:28 PM

Jeez those are some ridiculous company and product names.

**Ivery** · 01-20-2020, 07:58 PM

My new favorite, taste great, high clean stimulating effect with no crash.61O0X4e+mRL._AC_SX466_.jpg

**Elvia1023** · 01-25-2020, 05:34 AM

I have my excelsior and I got another 2 capsule sample of Hydrazine to try out. I figured I would try the later tonight. I prefer using full tubs of products so I can judge them over a period of time. Obviously you know if something is good or bad after 1 go but often my opinion changes on something after many uses. Hydrazine gets incredible reviews in the UK with many stating it's the best preworkout ever. It's expensive so I wasn't going to buy a whole tub when I only scored it 7.5/10 last time so I went with a 2 cap sample. I figured give it another go and see if how it is. Anyway here is my old review...

Hydrapharm Hydrazine- I only used a 2 cap sample serving for this product. At that dose it hit me much faster than what was listed on the label. It started with the most intense focus I had felt in a long time. However over a relatively short time it faded so overall I was disappointed. It's still very good and I am sure many will love it but after such an intense start it was disappointment. It's worth adding these caps should be great when added to other preworkouts to enhance focus. I would still give 2 caps 7.5/10.

After taking it again I pretty much was spot on. This time I took it much closer to training. It was just hitting me as I got to the gym so perfect timing. The initial focus is incredible. I felt good but again the effects die down relatively quickly. I also noticed I was breathing very heavily and I was sweating profusely. I always sweat because I train hard but this was ridiculous. At one point I also felt a bit off but I still had a great session. Now I state the effects fade away but I just mean the intense focus but I am still sat here 9 hours later wide awake when I should have gone to bed about 5 hours ago

All in all it's definitely worth trying if you don't mind paying the high cost. I think it would work well with another stimulant preworkoput but 2 caps would be too much. So using 1 cap with a scoop of a good pre workout could have a great effect. Although I am sure 1 cap wouldn't give the intense focus that 2 caps provides. I can't experiment more and even though it is very good I won't be buying a full tub. I still give it a 7.5/10 but I am sure many will love it on here. Everyone is different and when it comes to strong stimulant products the potential to be off point (for some people) is fairly large but I can see why this is very popular.

**Elvia1023** · 02-20-2020, 05:52 AM

I have been meaning to post about this for awhile. I have been experiemnting with Excelsior again recently. It's worth noting on most strong products that recommend 1 scoop I always end up using more than 1 scoop so I can take a high dose of stimulants. Now the label on Excelsior recommends 1-2 scoops which is bizarre to me as there is no way I would ever try 2 scoops.

Ok so on the first day on my new tub of Excelsior I figured my sensitivity is not as high as I have been dosing high amounts of other pre workouts that are fairly strong and I am not getting a strong effect. I also wanted to start with a bang so I figured do 1.5 scoops. During my last run I would use 1.5 scoops as a max but often use a bit less as it would hit me too hard. Anyway so I take 1.5 scoops and go to the gym. This stuff is literally unlike any other preworkout I have ever taken. Now this is in a bad way because I was so wired I couldn't even focus. I had 101 things in my head and it was making me think about each one rapidly. So in my head I was planning out what I was going to eat post workout, then the meal after, how I had to do washing, how I had to post in x thread, update my log, reply to that email etc etc. I also sometimes fidget but this stuff had me looking like a crackhead

I have since moved down to 1 scoop and at a max 1 1/4 scoop and that is a sweet spot. If I have no distractions and use closer to 1 scoop the focus is crazy and I have the most brutal workouts. This stuff also keeps me wide awake long after using it. Forgot about ensuring you have about 5 hours before bed this stuff will have me wide awke and full of clean energy 9 hours after taking it. Everyone is different but for most I would make sure you have at least 8 hours before you plan to go to bed before taking this.

Many go on about old and very strong preworkouts and how they miss them and everything is crap these days. Here is your answer and it's well worth trying. I doubt it will be available much longer but who knows. I would love to see a test done on it's ingredients

**Mattymoo** · 02-20-2020, 11:19 AM

Nitraflex pineapple is a let down too sweet and
No extra energy even if i take 1.5 scoops
I should buy some mire Tren A and pin 1 hour before workout

**Dnewell2004** · 02-20-2020, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by Mattymoo

Nitraflex pineapple is a let down too sweet and
No extra energy even if i take 1.5 scoops
I should buy some mire Tren A and pin 1 hour before workout

I like the nitraflex ready to drinks. But I still like prephase the best so far.

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**Dnewell2004** · 02-25-2020, 01:24 AM

Trying this tonight. Then maybe eating that later!!!

Edit: good energy and strength, was able to stay focused. Did a light squat with dead and back. Doing arms Wednesday so I'll find out the pump then.

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**Jesse22r** · 03-06-2020, 04:02 AM

What is the best non stim preworkout in your opinion? Work our after work and don’t want to be tossing and turning all night. Just want something for pump and focus.

**Elvia1023** · 03-27-2020, 04:26 PM

I just posted this in another thread but realized it probably should go in here as well so will add it here just incase people miss it elsewhere. Many are always looking for an alternative to give them a boost in energy or focus so this could be worth experimenting with. As have mentioned this in the past they seem to be getting very popular but I want to go over mushrooms again. I usually cook them with some onions, peppers and various other veg to go with my meat. Although there are some powdered products that are very concentrated and can be very beneficial. Many may have seen mushroom powder starting to get added into various pre workouts and there is good reason for that. They often go in a blend (PeakO2®) and they can have significant cognitive benefits. The focus alone from mushroom powder can be great. So if any of you suffer from faitgue or just need a boost I would recommend trying mushroom powder.

If I had to pick one mushroom variety for energy/focus it would probably be Cordyceps but most of them are great. Lion's mate gets mentioned quite a lot as well. I have just started using Reishi mushroom powder and you feel the boost from that instantly. The only issue with reishi is it's extremely bitter and tastes horrible. I would recommend having it with a small amount of water or even in a shot of espresso for a great boost in energy. On top of the energy they are really good for overall immunity and have the potential to help with blood glucose regulation amongst other things. You can even buy PeakO2® powder which I haven't used by itself but it would be worth experimenting with for many on here after a natural product to help with fatigue and overall energy/focus.