The preworkout thread

**Elvia1023** · 04-06-2017, 11:44 AM

So much to update I will have to do it in stages. I was rotating all my pre workouts for approx 1 month. Although I most often found myself going with Redcon1's Total War. It's a great overall pre workout that gives great pumps, energy and sense of well being with no negative side effects. It definitely helped me push the intensity. I also used Musclemed's NO Bull a lot too. As mentioned above I liked the fact that contained creatine (I hadn't used it in ages) so aided in strength endurance. Although I recently ordered creatine alone so can dose it how I please pre/intra/post workout now. I ordered a lot of supplements but here are the new pre workouts I decided to get...

First I tried the sample NO-XPLODE XE Edge from BSN. It was a 1 serving sample and felt great. It contains a lot of useful ingredietns. Whilst some may not be dosed high enough the final effect is a very good one. It performs in all areas and I felt great from it. The taste was fine not that it matters. All in all about 8.5/10. I would buy this to experiment with higher dosing but 1 serving contains 325mg caffeine so a nice dose.

I received a free goodie bag with the Scivation Quake product. It includes a 42oz blender bottle so I was made up. On paper Quake sounds incredible but I have yet to try it. It is not pictured but I also have a 7 serving Dymatize MPACT Energy Ignitor to try out too.

**Kvasir** · 04-06-2017, 11:49 AM

For the last couple months I've been using a pre-workout called stimul8 and I have to tell you it is pretty good

**Elvia1023** · 04-09-2017, 08:57 AM

Out of my new preworkouts the one that looks the best is definitely Quake 10.0. Although I have yet to try it but I will do fairly soon. It's funny because this brings me onto probably the worst ingredient profile... Hyphy Mud 2.0. It contains...

Granted it is still more of a mental product but still 3.82g total per serving. On paper that is one of the worst you could ever find. If I had to guess I would say about 1.5-2g beta alanine due to feel. So you are talking approx 2g's from the rest so they are all underdosed by large amounts (cm, taurine, agmatine sulfate etc). But how does it actually perform... I love it

I have used it about 6 times so far and it's great for upping the intensity in the gym. The first time I used it I thought no wonder he acts so mental all the time in his videos.

Hyphy Mud 2.0 tastes fine (tropical fruit), gives good pumps but the main thing is the focus and energy. It is more fast acting so you sometimes feel it drop off. Moreover as I have used it most of the week the effect do lower so I recommend frequent breaks when using this one. Perhaps rotating it and just using it on the days you want a big mental boost (legs etc). It states on the front to use 1 scoop max and on the back 1-2 scoops. So far I am up to about 1.5 scoops and I would rather have breaks then up it more as I can tell it contains a decent dose of caffeine/stimulants. Unfortunately I can't find specific amounts online so it's all guess work. I would rate it a 9/10.

**Elvia1023** · 04-09-2017, 06:19 PM

I just tried Universal's Shock Therapy. It states 1-2 scoops so I tried just over 1 1/2 scoops first time. I had the peach iced tea flavour which tastes really nice. In fact if you filled your shaker with water it would probably taste just like a regular peach iced tea. It's a weird one as I thought it was good but nothing that stood out too much. I didn't expect it to be great but I am a fan. Good pumps and energy but nothing too much. The main postive for it is I feel great on it and post workout I am feeling energetic. I am usually very tired post workout so that's a welcomed change. Plus I trained really hard so overall an 8/10 so far but I will try 2 scoops tomorrow. I think this would be great for the beginner to pre workouts and you can move up in dose through the days/weeks.

**Blackwolf** · 04-10-2017, 01:35 AM

Just a question guys if you become tolerant to a preworkout for a period of time lets say 6 months or so would it be ideal to detox like stop taking any preworkout for a couple weeks? or try a different product. I usually tend to use more scoops and still does jack shit to me, I've been taking the gat nitroflex for a while more of an placebo effect for me now. I wonder what everyones take is on this, I miss the days where I had veins popping and insane pumps. Thanks

**Elvia1023** · 04-10-2017, 10:07 PM

Originally Posted by Blackwolf

Just a question guys if you become tolerant to a preworkout for a period of time lets say 6 months or so would it be ideal to detox like stop taking any preworkout for a couple weeks? or try a different product. I usually tend to use more scoops and still does jack shit to me, I've been taking the gat nitroflex for a while more of an placebo effect for me now. I wonder what everyones take is on this, I miss the days where I had veins popping and insane pumps. Thanks

Definitely take breaks plus don't use them everyday. If you are using a pre workout about 5 days per week I would say ideally after 1 month have 2 weeks off. You lose sensitivity fast. High doses of stimulants can also effect the adrenal cortex which is very important. Abuse of pre workouts could end up effecting stress hormones such as cortisol and even blood pressure. Definitely try and have 2 weeks off all caffeine every 1-2 months. So no coffee, tea, coke etc either. You will notice a massive difference in regards to response after a long break. Having shorter breaks will give you back sensitivity but you will lose it fairly quickly once you start the stimulants again. This is a reason why I recommend rotating between 2-3 products too. Perhaps a stronger stimulant for legs etc and more of a pump product for arms day as an example. Everyone is different but I personally thought nitraflex was crap. Although it gets really good reviews. I even tried their newer one called PMP and it felt just like nitraflex just slightly stronger. Both were a disappointment to me but again everyone is different.

**Elvia1023** · 04-10-2017, 10:15 PM

Today I tried 2 scoops of Shock Therapy. Although my review is flawed due to MK-677. My energy levels are so low through the day I am going to open up the 20mg caps and half them. Usually I can still get in the zone for training and a pre workout definitely helps. Today I struggled getting ready but figured like the day before once I get in the gym I would be gtg. I struggled through my entire workout and my energy was very low. This is the first time it's happened whilst training so I am halving the caps as I can't be like that again in the gym.

I will try 2 scoops again before the next time I train to judge it better. I could literally dose any pre workout when MK-677 has built up and nothing would help my energy so it's unfair to review the product in this circumstance.

After I am done with Shock Therapy I have Quake 10.0 to try out. As mentioned above the ingredient panel looks great to me. I am obviously looking at this as a 2 scoop formula. So anything with 6g citrulline malate and 350mg caffeine should be a winner if they are dosed accurately. Added to those you have some great ingredients such as 1.5g arginine nitrate, 1.5g l-carnitine l-tartrate and 3g l-tyrosine. Below is the full list...

**PaulHeyman** · 04-12-2017, 01:24 PM

My go to pre is IFBB Pro Jeff Long's pre workout product "Like a Pro Pump". It has only 125mgs of caffeine which I personally like because I've been trying to ween myself off of being completely dependent on stimulants just to get thru the day. Everything is clinically dosed and no prop blends to hide ingredients. Its the best pump product I've used by far! Definitely worth taking a look at

**teej750** · 04-15-2017, 04:50 AM

Haven't seen anyone mention FOCUS by Nitric, best for and clean energy I've had since Jacked3d. Check it out, tastes great too.

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**Elvia1023** · 04-19-2017, 02:40 AM

I tried 2 scoops of Quake 10.0 the other day and I was disappointed. I had no caffeine that day or the day before either. Obviously the pumps were good but the energy and focus wasn't really there. But you can never judge a pre workout on 1 day as there are so many variables. I will try it again soon and hopefully it only gets better.

I haven't been able to train for about 4 days due to lower back issues. I trained earlier for the first time but still haven't recovered so I picked a pre workout that wouldn't give me great pumps (lower back). I went with 1 scoop of Nutrex's Hemo Rage Underground (Black Series) and it felt great. I learnt in the pass my sweet spot for this product is about 1.25-1.5 scoops but just used 1 today. Great energy and the pumps were better than expected too. Although I did train chest and arms which always get pumped up easily for me. It's definitely more a stimulant based product and I give it about a 8/10.